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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

I believe Opera was the first browsers to introduce tabs.

It also had mouse gestures, right click drag left to go back, right click... swirl? to reload... felt like I was casting spells!

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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I'm trying Vivaldi again since as an expat I depend on single-click in-browser translation. For me, the killer feature is built-in no-nonsense vertical tabs, something I had in Galeon many years ago because it used the Gtk+ tab widget. I hate hate hate that Chromium cannot do this, because dogma.

FWIW, Microsoft Edge also has vertical tabs.

Sorry, you lost me at 'Microsoft'.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe Opera was the first browsers to introduce tabs.

It also had mouse gestures, right click drag left to go back, right click... swirl? to reload... felt like I was casting spells!

I think that came during the period of Black & White by Lionhead Studios. (which was a milestone in using gestures to cast spells by swirly your mouse around)

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

Loved Opera back in the day. It had "page specific settings" that would let me allow to set HTTP/Socks5 proxies on a per-page setting - today you cannot even set a proxy anymore without changing your system settings (not browser settings).

If anyone asks, I used this heavily to bypass country blocks/redirects on a per-page level and also with privoxy on some privacy invading sites.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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I really tried to like Vivaldi, and it could be a good browser, but is so unbearably slow. The whole UI is unresponsive. Opening a new tab can take almost a second. Price for javascript apps I guess. edit for clarification: This was on OSX, on Windows it was OK. Used it for almost a year as a secondary browser, no change, gave up.

Do you have an older machine, or is it even slow on new machines?

I tried Vivaldi last year on my computer which is about ten years old now. Vivaldi was extremely sluggish (Chrome and Firefox still run fine), I was hoping to come back to it once I upgrade my computer.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Off-topic, but: does anyone know how Vivaldi is funded? I tried looking for it for a bit, but couldn't find any income streams.

First hit in Google https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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For an open-source recreation of Opera 12, there is Otter: https://otter-browser.org

Thanks for the link!

Browsing the source code, I love the author's habit to make a code commit every single day [0]. That looks like a powerful way to move the project forward while avoiding fatigue.

https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/commits/170f36...

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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I really tried to like Vivaldi, and it could be a good browser, but is so unbearably slow. The whole UI is unresponsive. Opening a new tab can take almost a second. Price for javascript apps I guess. edit for clarification: This was on OSX, on Windows it was OK. Used it for almost a year as a secondary browser, no change, gave up.

Is it based on electron. - drum roll - :)

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe Opera was the first browsers to introduce tabs.

I'm pretty sure Galeon had tabs before Opera, but maybe something had tabs before Galeon.

According to Wikipedia, Netcaptor was the very first browser to have tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_(interface)#History

However, Opera supported an MDI interface before it supported tabs, and if you count that it may have supported multiple browser windows within one MDI window even earlier, which could be said to be a form of tabs.

Everything depends on how you define "tabs", as usual.

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