i pay 45% tax in the usa. time to move ;)
How do you figure? Top tax bracket is 39.6% when taxable income is over $413,201. On the first $9225 of that you pay 10% just like everyone else. From 1944 to 1963 the top rate was not less than 91% From 1932 to 1981 the top rate was not less than 63%
Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
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Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
#422Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course you would! Anyone in their right minds would. I still don't understand why the USA has such a lousy healthcare system[1] and why people don't demand something more appropriate. [1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/
Probably the same reason why people stay in North-Korea - they don't know any better, or they keep believing in the nationalist propaganda that the US is the best country EVAr. Thanks for linking that, Roger Moore may be controversial, but he does a good job of pointing out why the reality of the US just doesn't match up to its propaganda.
Thanks for comparing us to North Korea. I appreciate it. Also, the reason people stay in North Korea is because they will kill you if you try to escape, and will kill your remaining family if you succeed.
I will also let you know when I meet the first American who thinks our healthcare system works.
I really do hope you continue on your path of caricaturing others in order to make yourself feel better.
Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
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> Vacation time is also the lowest (2 weeks) compared to Europe which on average has 4 weeks of vacation time. The EU mandates a minimum of 4 weeks, so 4 weeks could hardly be the average.
I am not sure in which EU countries you get less? It is a question.
Normally none, as I said 4 weeks is the minimum mandated by the EU. The only way an EU country would have less is if it recently integrated the union and has yet to transcribe 2003/88/EC ("Working Time Directive") into local law.
Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably the same reason why people stay in North-Korea - they don't know any better, or they keep believing in the nationalist propaganda that the US is the best country EVAr. Thanks for linking that, Roger Moore may be controversial, but he does a good job of pointing out why the reality of the US just doesn't match up to its propaganda.
That's Michael Moore, not Roger Moore. The latter is an Englishman who played James Bond. And it has nothing to do with what Americans believe, but everything to do with the fact that money controls politics in America. And moneyed interests want American healthcare to stay exactly as it is. Thanks for comparing us to North Korea. I appreciate it. Also, the reason people stay in North Korea is because they will kill…
Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
#425As is always the case, these comparisons are almost always ideologically biased nonsense. What I am saying is that you can't compare two countries with such dissimilar profiles without examining and making sense of a lot of data. And you certainly can't conclude that one has a great work culture and the other does not. Just a few data points... Population US 320,000,000 CH 8,000,000 Employment among 15 to 65 year old…
> I'd like someone to explain the impact of a per-capita debt of over $150K and 229% of GDP on the People's Republic of Switzerland. The explanation is simply that you're using the wrong data. Kind of embarrassing for someone who is complaining about how nobody else understands the importance of numbers and spreadsheets. The number you've marked as "national debt" is actually "external debt", which is a totally irrel…
The greater point here isn't the accuracy of numbers I quickly pulled out of a few websites. I simply wanted to point out that saying "I lived in for and is lousy" is nonsense without engaging a serious study of the numbers.
I wasn't about to spend a whole day writing a research paper because, well, I am not the one making the claim that Switzerland's shit don't stink.
Is the US perfect? Nope. We are as fucked as can be. And, at the same time, we still remain the land of opportunity and the place from where vast amounts of innovation continue to come from. A simply comparison of the tech startup ecosystem alone shows there are huge differences that need to be evaluated and accounted for.
In other words, if the utopia of Switzerland is so remarkably better than the crap we have here in the US, why is it that Silicon Valley hasn't migrated to Switzerland or that most of the major science and tech companies aren't founded and based out of Switzerland?
To me Switzerland is an aberration. Either it is a house of cards or it is the luckiest 8 million people on the planet. Time will tell.
Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
#426Happy Swiss National Day Switzerland! You've been a democracy since 1292(?). Good luck and hopefully you'll be independent and free for another 800 years.
Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
#427I grew up very poor in the U.S. Poor as in, my single mom earned $6000 / year with little federal benefits to raise four kids. But, now, I'm in my late 30s and very successful. So, in that regard, I love the U.S. For the upper middle class and wealthy, the U.S. is like an adult playground. And, I don't mind the long hours of work; I still get plenty of work-life balance. But, honestly, the only way that this occurs (…
This is what I liked about my upbringing; my parents weren't rich either, but at the same time my quality of life was decent. Thanks to government funding, I was able to get a decent education (bachelor's degree, I could go for a master's but I couldn't be arsed) and as a result a very good job (I've got the best job of anyone I know besides my colleagues). Upward mobility is very good here, unlike in the US where as…
Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
#428Earlier quoted context omitted.
few pleasures compare to productively working There is something seriously wrong here. Many, many pleasures in life are as pleasurable, or more pleasurable, than productively working. For many people, productively working is actually not pleasurable.
Yes... there is something seriously wrong here. If you don't enjoy your work, quit! I work because I love it. The money is a nice side benefit.
Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
#429Earlier quoted context omitted.
In fact America does have one of the highest standards of living. It also has one of the highest median incomes, and among the highest disposable incomes. OECD better life index: http://i.imgur.com/ekhWXeG.png Maternity leave is common in America. You are free to choose your job based on the benefits you desire, including vacation time and maternity leave. Switzerland and Germany to name two, are famous for not havin…
This is laughable... I only checked your link and saw Poland's bottom 10% having a better life index than France's bottom 10% by quite a wide margin, and Poland's top 10% having a better life index than France's top 10%. It's a complete joke. There are at least a dozen countries I'd rather live than in the US when it comes to well being. And that's not bad by the way, for a country of over 300 million, to rank top 5…
Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture
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This doesn't sound hugely informed. I spent the evening discussing this yesterday with Americans in a beer garden in Munich. Actually, more than the working conditions, the Americans didn't want to go back because of the guns.
Do you think people just run around with guns in the US? Not everything is as crazy as the news makes it sound. Its definitely a problem, but its not like were living in constant fear