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I agree completely. Wasn't there a thread here a just few days ago discussing Gmail consistently marking personal mail servers as spam? EDIT: Found it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9855030
Even if said personal servers have DKIM and SPF set up? (Just thinking out loud here, I don't have data either way)
I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.
You're probably right. Mailing lists (of the discussion group variety, not marketing mail) often have problems with spam filter false positives, most commonly due to DMARC policies. There's not really a great solution to that at the moment - either you technically violate RFCs by having your your discussion group software modify some headers, or you deal with other kinds of breakage. Doing header rewrites is effectiv…
I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.
Well, as he said, some emails on the middle of threads were marked as Spam Funny thing that happened to me, a mail from Google was marked as Spam. This was a long time ago, and it was from a mailing list, but apart from that, it was a legitimate mail.
DMARC allows a domain to say "email that claims to come from my domain must be signed by me. If it doesn't, burn it with fire, no exceptions". So Gmail is only following the instructions laid out by the sending domain.
This is helping to make the email ecosystem a lot more robust by ending the problem of From forging. Ordinary users rarely realise that the From header is otherwise meaningless so phishing them can be very easy.
However it does not play well with mailman's default settings, and a lot of mailing list admins refuse to help the email ecosystem become more secure (whilst often PGP signing their own mails, doh). So DMARC creates a lot of noise in the technical community from people who have to/want to use mailman based lists.
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Haha, I did the exact same thing and found the exact same messages. I thought maybe they were fake, but looking into them they look legit. Good job, Google!!
Yes, my first reaction was also thinking those were indeed fake google emails. but I checked the logging in time and the from email address, they are legit (I got two emails like this filtered this week). those emails were sent from no-reply@accounts.I.google.com
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I wrote a daemon that monitors a mailbox that users can submit spam to, for spam that makes it through the other filtering layers. The daemon finds the original message in the user's mail directory, reads the headers, tracks down the originating network using whois, and then blackholes the network and emails me a notification about it. Some networks are whitelisted for practical purposes. Google's one of them. If nec…
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The mail simply does not reach my suppliers'/partners' inbox, and as a result we're all losing time and patience with this
The really funny thing? Some of those people I work with are @google.com.
(And yeah, my corporate domain is clean, SPF'd up to the wazoo, etc.)
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And the moment someone accidentally clicks the SPAM button you'll find yourself with weeks of pain on a low volume mail server. Because, as an individual, you won't qualify for their FBL service and "mysteriously" you'll have weeks of everyone saying you end up in their spam folder.
I've seen otherwise intelligent people (not native English speakers but still) use mark as spam as an alternative to delete. This was years ago but I guess that person was not alone.
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Gmail actually has pretty good keyboard shortcuts...
Even if gmail keyboard shortcuts were anywhere near as good or fast as alpine (they aren't) you still have big bloated responsive AJAX/js pages loading for every single action. With alpine over ssh I can use email on a bad 2G cellular connection with no hassle at all while google won't even load the inbox.