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The View from the Front Seat of the Google Self-Driving Car

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Re: The View from the Front Seat of the Google Self-Driving Car

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I'm wondering if the self driving cars should report these bad drivers.

I was thinking the same thing. If Google start logging license plate numbers (and, hey, it's Google), they could build a database of known dangerous vehicles and automatically give them a wide berth.

At that point they'd necessarily have some way to quantify dangerousity. There will be a ranking. Somewhere deep in the bowels of google, there will be a list, Top Ten most dangerous drivers. Google is about to get into the car insurance business.

Re: The View from the Front Seat of the Google Self-Driving Car

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Imagine that for a moment: Self driving car companies could promise to pay all accident expenses provided it was on auto drive at the time of accident. Not only is that a marketing win, potentially reducing accidents and saving costs for owners... if you jump forward many years of Google (or other) defending owners in court you would reach a point even judges would be biased to believe that the auto-driven car could…

I rather the marketing message be like "we tested the self-driving car for xx million miles, and we had zero at fault accident."

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post #4

One thing I'm looking forward to with self-driving cars is to be able to step into a street anywhere and have all the traffic stop automatically. Every inch of street now becomes a crosswalk. Even highways. (This is an ironic statement)

There are plenty of places people do this already. For example, this is common behaviour in Manhattan.

Re: The View from the Front Seat of the Google Self-Driving Car

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post #29
post #17

Every time I hear about the amazingly low accident rates in current generation self-driving cars I'm reminded of this joke (unfortunately I can't remember the source): Grandpa, what did you do before self-driving cars? Well, we just drove them ourselves. We just needed a little practice and to take a test. Wow, and nobody got killed!? Oh, no, millions of people died.

This will only be the case when all cars are self-driving. Many of these articles do not give a comparison...so,11 per 1.7m miles sounds awesome, but how do you know what the current rate is? The data I found had a passenger vehicle fatal crash per 100m miles as between 1.0 and 1.33, and a property damage only crash rate per 100m miles of 145, which relate to 0.01 fatalities per 1m miles, and 1.45 property only crash…

I think it's important to note that the 11 accidents the self-driving cars were involved in were the fault of the other driver.

Re: The View from the Front Seat of the Google Self-Driving Car

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post #7

When the car is too good and fast to respond, it will get hit from behind it seems. I guess they could change their algorithm to be slow-reacting. dumbing down machines so that petty humans can catch up.

I'd guess that most from-behind collisions are due to excessive speed for conditions, or driver inattention. Not much that the leading car can do about either of those.

The leading car can do several things in those scenarios, ranging from increased stopping time (which it should already likely be doing to maximize fuel efficiency), brake light usage, or in extreme cases changing lanes to get out of the way.

Re: The View from the Front Seat of the Google Self-Driving Car

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post #4

One thing I'm looking forward to with self-driving cars is to be able to step into a street anywhere and have all the traffic stop automatically. Every inch of street now becomes a crosswalk. Even highways. (This is an ironic statement)

A long long ago a science fiction story with self-driving cars had that scenario. Everyone jaywalked all the time because it was perfectly safe.

Are you talking about a vernor vinge story? I can't remember the name.

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post #4

One thing I'm looking forward to with self-driving cars is to be able to step into a street anywhere and have all the traffic stop automatically. Every inch of street now becomes a crosswalk. Even highways. (This is an ironic statement)

It might eventually just look like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlyOom0bwwY

Re: The View from the Front Seat of the Google Self-Driving Car

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post #4

One thing I'm looking forward to with self-driving cars is to be able to step into a street anywhere and have all the traffic stop automatically. Every inch of street now becomes a crosswalk. Even highways. (This is an ironic statement)

You can already stop traffic by doing this. Why not give it a go? ;) On a serious note: I'm sure strolling into highway traffic will be approximately as legal as it is presently.

All joking aside, that's exactly how traffic works in Portland.
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