Jon Ronson: How a Tweet Can Ruin Your Life

Post by Dewie » Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 1:33 PM UTC

Red_Tarsius wrote: post #75

adekok wrote: post #63

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It goes on: > “Danger,” she said. “Clearly my body was telling me, ‘You are unsafe.’” > “Have you ever heard that thing, men are afraid that women will laugh at them and women are afraid that men will kill them?” she said. Remind me when someone was last killed at a tech conference like she says? Very rarely, if ever. Did she feel bad about him being fired? Nope. > “He’s a white male. I’m a black Jewish female. He wa…

The irony is, such delusional behaviour does nothing but foster more doubt and double standards. If I were Hank, I would react exactly as he wrote: > I asked Hank if he found himself behaving differently since the incident. Had it altered how he lived his life? > “I distance myself from female developers a little bit now,” he replied. “I’m not as friendly. There’s humour, but it’s very mundane. You just don’t know. I…

Post by roarkjs » Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 1:33 PM UTC

interpol_p wrote: post #127

bobcostas55 wrote: post #121

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What is threatening about that joke?

That's exactly it. We find it so hard to understand how that joke is threatening. It's almost impossible to imagine. It just sounds like a dumb joke. But look at how Adria describes her feelings in the article: “Have you ever had an altercation at school and you could feel the hairs rise up on your back?” she asked me. “You felt fear?” I asked. “Danger,” she said. “Clearly my body was telling me, ‘You are unsafe.’” I…

Post by StavrosK » Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 1:34 PM UTC

fpgeek wrote: post #116

theorique wrote: post #68

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"Not too bad, he's a white male. I'm a black Jewish female." Nice quote here. As you say, it really does make Richards look empathetic. /s But seriously, this is not good for her image.

No, she doesn't look empathetic, but, considering the broader context, how much empathy can you reasonably expect? He lost his job and got a new one "right away" (according to the article). She also lost her job, was bombarded with all kinds of threats (death, rape, etc.), had to go into hiding and still doesn't have a new job (at least as of her interview for the piece). I'm sure she could improve her image if she w…

Post by mtrimpe » Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 1:34 PM UTC

bluehex wrote: post #162

mtrimpe wrote: post #143

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Involuntary sexualization is sexist though. What if the picture on screen was a woman saying 'I want to be judged on my merits not my gender' and the guys were saying 'Nice tits' out loud and laughing? Would that be sexism? I'd unequivocally say yes and, while inarguably less offensive, the dongle joke was still similarly sexist.

> ... the dongle joke was still similarly sexist. How so? As I understand it the joke wasn't directed at the picture on the screen or anybody in particular.

Post by StavrosK » Thu, Mar 05, 2015, 1:36 PM UTC

outworlder wrote: post #39

I remember this episode well. Adria is more immature than the jokes that she supposedly got offended by. Let's ennumerate: - She overheard a conversation that wasn't directed at her. In the middle of a conference she was hopefully not coerced at attending and should be paying attention to the speaker - She took a picture of two people, without asking for permission - She twitted said picture with negative comments -…