Note: Windows 10 on Pi 2 will be an IoT platform, not a desktop OS. You'll develop your app in Visual Studio on a Windows PC and deploy it to the Pi. Raspbian will continue to be the main supported OS. - Ben from Raspberry Pi
Thanks for the clarification. I'm not familiar with Microsoft programs and I didn't know what "IoT platform" was (in fact, didn't know that IoT was "Internet of Things").
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And there's nothing wrong with that. Kids will be more productive on Windows and more likely be able to take those skills with them. How many kids need to know linux in the future? Here's what the Linux trend looks like: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=linux
>Kids will be more productive on Windows Citation needed.
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> Seems to me Windows is a perfectly open enough OS to act as a platform for tinkering and learning about computers. Maybe, but Linux just seems more convenient. I mean, can you install gcc, golang, nodejs, python, ruby, ghc, lua (...) on windows with a single command? And all the other tools you might want to use, like editors, databases? And you will never know if they want to do kernel-level coding if they don't h…
> I mean, can you install gcc, golang, nodejs, python, ruby, ghc, lua (...) on windows with a single command? If you go the unofficial way you can use chocolatey ( https://chocolatey.org/ ). I am very happy with it ( so does it my 9 years old son) > And you will never know if they want to do kernel-level coding if they don't have access to the kernel. That depends on the personal curiosity of each person. In my case…
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#134I am usually not the one to blow the free software horn (being a staunch believer of non-copyleft licenses such as the Apache License) and the geek in me likes this announcement. I also don't hold a grudge against Windows, I think it is a fine system for most people. However, Windows seems very much contrary to the goal of the Raspberry Pi: providing a device for children to tinker with and educate themselves. Althou…
Now, while legally, you are perfectly right, Windows is as close as ever, it's not actually that hard to look under the hood. I work as a Windows device driver developer, and sometimes I need to reverse engineer some of the internals, and the source code from WRK is easily available on the internet : ( http://gate.upm.ro/os/LABs/Windows_OS_Internals_Curriculum_R... ). These are sources from 2005-2006 timeframe, but t…
Perhaps not if you plan of contributing code to any open source OS. Practices like this can leave projects exposed to intellectual property violations.
This is why reverse engineering usually requires more people, each who isn't privy to the previous persons source material.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now, while legally, you are perfectly right, Windows is as close as ever, it's not actually that hard to look under the hood. I work as a Windows device driver developer, and sometimes I need to reverse engineer some of the internals, and the source code from WRK is easily available on the internet : ( http://gate.upm.ro/os/LABs/Windows_OS_Internals_Curriculum_R... ). These are sources from 2005-2006 timeframe, but t…
> and the source code from WRK is easily available on the internet : ( http://gate.upm.ro/os/LABs/Windows_OS_Internals_Curriculum_R... ). These are sources from 2005-2006 timeframe, but they are tremendously helpful when debugging What's the story behind this? Did Microsoft willingly open source parts of its Windows kernel?
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#136I don't think Microsoft is doing it for the Open-Source spirit, as many seem to believe. They have a long history of attacking/smearing open source and displaying a "I heart Linux" slide is not sufficient to erase all the FUD and their questionable software patent licensing schemes (which are completely anti-open). They called Linux a cancer, even. I think they're approaching this from a redundancy point of view, if…
Can we stop with this argument? Every time a business makes a business-oriented decision someone will pop out to call them out for being acting for their own benefit, as if it's somehow bad. Like every human exchange, you don't have to be an altruist for your deed to be good. It's alright to do "good" even if it derives some sort of benefit for yourself or your company.
there are plenty of "business-oriented decisions" that are bad for others; being pro-competition or anti-monopoly is not the same thing as being anti-business in general, as you seem to be implying here.
the poster was talking about Microsoft's use of network effects as an anti-competitive strategy, not about criticizing a company attempting to make money.
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It's unfortunate that you apparently had bad experiences with Ubuntu, but this thread is about development tools, not installing third party games from external sources. Yes, if you want to game, windows seems like a more convenient choice, nobody disputes that.
Well I have a B+ and installed Raspbian for a little home energy project that reads from my smart meter over serial and pushes the data to the cloud. The programming was easy, I spent 5x as much time trying to get things installed. Finally got Cloud9 working, never was able to get InfluxDB installed, kind of got OrientDB installed (it crashes). I consider myself a technical person and while I think it's fun to use Li…
Should read: "...I'm certainly not productive."
Just because you struggled with the Linux paradigm, it doesn't mean that it's an unproductive platform.
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#138People will discover the limitations very quickly, especially compared to Raspbian/Ubuntu/OpenSUSE/etc...
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I think this was answered. It's bad because teachers would push for a platform they presumably know more about -- Windows.
And there's nothing wrong with that. Kids will be more productive on Windows and more likely be able to take those skills with them. How many kids need to know linux in the future? Here's what the Linux trend looks like: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=linux
BTW it seems interest in Windows is also halving every ~10 years (though not as fast as 'linux'):