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Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by godzilla82 »

downandout wrote: post #530
Tloewald wrote: post #378

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Brendan Eich is entitled to his opinion, and a large not for profit is entitled not to want someone with that opinion as a figurehead. As for who has done more for what — web browsers were going to have a scripting language. Is Javascript so astoundingly good that we can only assume any alternative would have been worse?

I don't believe in the cause that Eich donated to. But taking away someone's job over a political donation is preposterous and disturbing. If he had donated to a liberal cause and was forced out because conservative employees had a problem with it, the entire media would have come down on Mozilla like a ton of bricks. Instead his resignation was celebrated. Chilling political discourse by threatening the livelihoods…

>But taking away someone's job over a political donation is preposterous and disturbing.

>Eich's forced resignation was an offense against everything America allegedly stands for.

But what if the cause someone donates for, curtails the rights of someone else? Would you say the same thing if he had donated to a terrorist organisation?

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Post by DiabloD3 »

kamaal wrote: post #830
vayarajesh wrote: post #648

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India is far from been mature and accept for what we actually are.. in India you will mostly see people who are pretentious and care more about society thinks about them than what they actually feel.. Same is the case for a treatment for "women".. in india they are treated unequally.. the boy child gets all the care, education, preferences and most of all "FREEDOM" and girl cant even do anything of her choice.. india…

>>girl cant even do anything of her choice.. In India we have messed up things so badly we have scared away a lot of people from having girl kids. I'm not talking about female infanticide and foeticide(This kind of things do happen, even now). But, These days those couples who have the morality of not committing such inhumane acts don't even bother to have a second kid if the first kid is a girl. While I see couples…

Maybe I'm bad at math, but wouldn't the set of (female, none), (male, female), and (male, male) ultimately lead to more females than males?

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Post by anoncow »

bruceb wrote: post #761
anoncow wrote: post #573

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Read through the comments of an indian news website. Makes me sad. We should love more. I hope people are better than that. A lot of sexuality based and religion based hate. I hope things improve. I hope people love more. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Being-gay-...

Read the comments on Yahoo or Redstate. You will find similar comments. Don't judge a country by the cranks online.

I agree. Also, youtube.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by cududa »

unknownBits wrote: post #522
alexbecker wrote: post #484

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I know this is bait, but I'll bite. > I truly hate the Gay Pride in our country. I think it is pathetic to be proud of your sexual orientation and feeling a need to show that off. The notion of "Gay Pride" exists to specifically counter the widespread notion that being gay is something to be ashamed of. Countering shame with pride is way more effective than countering it with "meh, it's not relevant to my identity".…

There must be more intelligent ways to gain acceptance for being gay than a gay pride, sorry but it's so lame, ever seen the pictures? The gay friends I have are nothing like that, most of them are very intelligent, sensible, and nothing like those idiot on those parades.

Many gay people have marched in pride parades. Many of whom are likely smarter than you.

To run with the logic you present here, since Tim Cook has been a part of a pride parade, are you suggesting him an idiot and you yourself smarter?

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Post by afterburner »

judk wrote: post #819
defen wrote: post #783

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I figured it was a reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth

Wow, that puts the anti Semitic and anti communist roots of Nazism way back in 1919. Such a long slow buildup, and nothing stopped it.

Minus the racism, it also has similarities to the way some in the US thought about the Vietnam War (would have won if it wasn't for an unsupportive public/government back home).

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Post by godzilla82 »

zak_mc_kracken wrote: post #791
notjackma wrote: post #396

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> Tim Cook continued contracts with Foxconn with the sole goal of minimizing production costs by using underpaid overworked labor I'm going to upvote you for this. Just because Tim Cook is gay doesn't make him Mother Teresa. He seems quite happy in promoting brutal Victorian style work-houses because it's "over there". Out of sight, out of mind. He's quite the hypocrite. He's also no better or worse then the operatio…

> Just because Tim Cook is gay doesn't make him Mother Teresa. It's depressing to see this myth perpetuated that Mother Teresa was a good person. She was a horrible human being who denied poor and sick people the help and medicated relief they needed just because of her religious beliefs. Of course, she also denied abortion, contraception and all other kinds of medical help that were not in line with her religious be…

There was a time in India when people with leprosy were left out to die along the streets and no one would come near them. If you had it, your family and the society would ask you to leave the area. I have heard stories from people of my grand fathers generation of how Mother Teresa and her followers (Sisters of charity), would physically carry the lepers and care for them. They really believed in the cause and had a lot of courage. Many of the sisters contracted leprosy doing this. For this they gained enormous respect from people of all religions in Calcutta.

If you have ever seen a leper in India and their condition, you would not have called her sick and twisted.

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Post by godzilla82 »

praneshp wrote: post #533
Crito wrote: post #502

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Actually, exploiting the poor is one thing that Tim Cook and Mother Teresa could find common ground on.

This. I used to live in Kolkata (then Calcutta), where she had setup her place, and it was sick to see people being asked to pray to the Christ when they needed food and medicine instead.

Why didnt you/other communities/societies people provide food and medicine without asking to pray first?

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Post by afterburner »

wefarrell wrote: post #300
ForrestN wrote: post #235

I am incredibly grateful to Cook for this, not least because of how it will affect young gay people. When I was a child, I felt generally good about myself. I was reasonably smart, well-spoken, curious, and so on, and I wanted to do something important with my life. Some nagging part of me suspected I was gay from very early on, but I resisted it intensely. I wasn't really afraid of being mistreated, although I proba…

"There hasn't been a gay President" http://www.salon.com/2012/05/14/our_real_first_gay_president...

I can't believe what I'm reading there about facial hair.

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Post by godzilla82 »

anoncow wrote: post #573
avinassh wrote: post #475

Excellent news. I am from India where being gay is a crime in this country. Leaders of this country believe that being gay is a disease and it can be 'cured'[0]. According to Indian Penal Code 377[1], if you are gay you can be imprisoned for life. I had a friend and two years ago he committed suicide because he was gay. In India it's not easy to be gay. Parents and societal pressures can make anyones life living hell…

Read through the comments of an indian news website. Makes me sad. We should love more. I hope people are better than that. A lot of sexuality based and religion based hate. I hope things improve. I hope people love more. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Being-gay-...

People in India on an average are intolerant and mean. I have spent some time in the US and I was surprised to find that the average person you run into in the world is a nice person. I dont know why it is so in India. May be its because of the population pressure and a bad selection criteria in society. In some situations mean behaviour is the only way how you get things done.

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Post by ted1961 »

codeoclock wrote: post #168
gergles wrote: post #157

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Tim Cook is 53. Are you suggesting there's some sort of swell change that occurred in 5 years?

Tim Cook is 53 and gay . Eich is 58 and straight. Very different backgrounds.

Eich is also 53, the same age as Cook. Both were born in 1961 Where do you get you mistaken certitude from? And why would 5 years age difference matter even if it were true?
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