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Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by mordocai »

b3b0p wrote: post #160

If one wants to start using Emacs is there a recommended starter package that is recommended over others instead of starting from scratch that can be learned from over time? I want to start using Emacs, but starting with a blank slate leaves much to be desired. Especially when a someone new to Emacs doesn't know what's available or what can be done or how.

There are a few. I personally started off of a co-workers emacs.d instead, so I can't tell you which one I like. Here is a list of some of the popular ones: http://ergoemacs.org/misc/list_of_emacs_starter_kits.html.

Here is some discussion about how scary starter kits can be too, and some advice on learning emacs: http://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/1udtd1/starting_emacs....

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by chrisdone »

b3b0p wrote: post #160

If one wants to start using Emacs is there a recommended starter package that is recommended over others instead of starting from scratch that can be learned from over time? I want to start using Emacs, but starting with a blank slate leaves much to be desired. Especially when a someone new to Emacs doesn't know what's available or what can be done or how.

I think if you're the kind of user who just wants an editor that does things for you, you'd be better off sticking with what you have already chosen that satisfies your list of features. Deciding to use Emacs for its features is a bad reason.

If you're interested in Emacs for its extensibility then I would consider it a worthy investment. Go through the tutorial, find out how to query docs, extend keybindings and modes and things like that, and then I would recommend my Elisp programming guide: https://github.com/chrisdone/elisp-guide

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by zafiro17 »

stinkytaco wrote: post #19
davidw wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has sockets, so... pretty much anything you can do with those, you can do with Emacs. * Email (gnus) * NNTP (gnus) * IRC Come to mind offhand.

Slightly off-topic, but is there still much NNTP use out there other than piracy related? I was a heavy NNTP user once upon a time, but all the public groups I once used seem to be overrun by spam and private ones seem to have gone in favor of email. I would expect there's a quite a few private servers out there to warrant continual updating in a program like emacs.

Yes! There's a healthy community at comp.misc where we post stuff like this article, and sci.misc where we post non comp stuff. In fact you'll see a healthy correlation between articles posted to Ycombinator that are subsequently posted and discussed on comp.misc and now sci.misc. Good place to get a free Usenet account is Solani.org now that Albasani and AIOE are somewhat over-subscribed.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by zafiro17 »

tuhdo wrote: post #112
CDRdude wrote: post #65

I'm a comparative youngin to most of the people here, and I've never tried emacs. I'd like to learn my way around it someday, but I don't know how high of a priority I should place on it. I've managed to pick up enough vim to make my life easier, would learning my way around emacs also get me a productivity boost? How good is evil mode?

You can check my mini manual to quickly be productive with Emacs: http://tuhdo.github.io/emacs-tutor.html Also check my other guides, even just to see Emacs's awesomeness: http://tuhdo.github.io/

A slightly different target audience, but here is my Woodnotes Guide to Emacs for Writers (not Coders). It will get you used to the editor, at least. I use Firefox plus the "It's all text" extension (configured to call emacs as its editor) for happy times on forums like this one. http://therandymon.com/index.php?/archives/197-Woodnotes-Gui...

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by p4bl0 »

klibertp wrote: post #159
p4bl0 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. So that's what other already said, there is nothing more. This was a really minor issue, I don't see why it would make anyone that much happy, but it's sure nice to have it fixed.

It also gives you a live preview when you use C-x r t to insert text, like iedit-rectangle-mode always did (iedit is still more robust, but for most simple cases I use C-x spc now instead of it).

Ah, that's cool! Thanks.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by hollerith »

dgempesaw wrote: post #153
sjm wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alternatively, until homebrew is updated you can run brew edit emacs and change the url and sha256 to match 24.4, then run brew install emacs with whatever options you would like (brew options emacs for a list). I haven't tested this yet, but it should work, and I will report back after I've tried. edit: So this did work, I used the .tar.xz with sha256 47e391170db4ca0a3c724530c7050655f6d573a711956b4cd84693c194a9d4fd.…

Update a few hours later: without having tried it myself, it looks like the formula for emacs has been updated to 24.4: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/a0b095b/Library...

The Homebrew package for Emacs with Mac-specific changes by a professor named YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu has also been updated:

https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport/commits/...

For 2 or 3 years now, whenever I have compared the two, the current version of "Mitsuharu" Emacs has always had fewer Cocoa-related bugs than the current (release) version of "FSF Emacs" (i.e., Emacs without the professor's patches applied). I am writing this comment because this Mitsuharu fellow seems very reticent about promoting his own (excellent) work.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by ams6110 »

ephemeralgomi wrote: post #9
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs has a web browser?

It's had w3 for quite a while. 'eww' is new.

It's still text-mode though (it will show images inline).

There was a project to integrate webkit into an emacs browser mode but not sure where that stands.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by ezequiel-garzon »

wging wrote: post #115
ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #47

In Ubuntu I'm unable to activate orgtbl-mode unless I first switch to org-mode. This didn't happen with Emacs 23. Has anybody experienced the same? How can I check if this has been reported? Thanks. Edit: Seriously, people? You take the time to downvote and not to point in a direction to contribute to make Emacs better? So much for the attacks on Stack Overflow and its strict policies and policing... And anyway, how…

There's actually a StackExchange site specifically for emacs now: https://emacs.stackexchange.com

Thanks, wging, I will keep that in mind. Still, I wish HN were more open to these not-so-off-topic questions. Happily, I have received an on-target reply, which rocks!

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by ezequiel-garzon »

omaranto wrote: post #93
ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #47

In Ubuntu I'm unable to activate orgtbl-mode unless I first switch to org-mode. This didn't happen with Emacs 23. Has anybody experienced the same? How can I check if this has been reported? Thanks. Edit: Seriously, people? You take the time to downvote and not to point in a direction to contribute to make Emacs better? So much for the attacks on Stack Overflow and its strict policies and policing... And anyway, how…

Try adding (require 'org-table) to your .emacs. My guess is that you only have (require 'org-install) or something like that currently. (Running the org-mode function will load several org libraries, including org-table, if they aren't loaded already, which is why orgtbl-mode does work after the first use of org-mode in the setup I'm guessing you have.)

Thanks a lot for replying! That did it! Although I haven't tried the latest version, I know for a fact this wasn't necessary with version 23, which is puzzling.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by ezequiel-garzon »

ibrahima wrote: post #92
ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #47

In Ubuntu I'm unable to activate orgtbl-mode unless I first switch to org-mode. This didn't happen with Emacs 23. Has anybody experienced the same? How can I check if this has been reported? Thanks. Edit: Seriously, people? You take the time to downvote and not to point in a direction to contribute to make Emacs better? So much for the attacks on Stack Overflow and its strict policies and policing... And anyway, how…

How'd you get Emacs 24.4 on Ubuntu? Is there a PPA or did you compile from source?

I just ran apt-get install emacs24, which has given me so far version 24.3.1. Cheers.
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