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Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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I would say that learning your IDE or editor well is a worthwhile investment, whether that is emacs, vim, or a more rich IDE like Eclipse. Vim or Emacs are really powerful tools that will serve you well over your entire career, so getting adept at them will pay dividends. It's similar to learning how to touch-type, or typing with a faster WPM, in that it's not a pre-requisite to becoming a good and productive develop…

Happy to see others mentioning eclipse. I'm learning emacs now and it impresses me a lot but I also have happy memories from both Eclipse and NetBeans. The way you can refactor whole projects at once etc is amazing. (This is partly related to Java being static and uncool as well. : )

The beauty of learning emacs keybindings is that most IDE's will have an "emacs mode". So you don't have to relearn things.

But it's also useful for things like bash or OSX interfaces too, since they use the same common keybinding scheme.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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IIRC, w3 was an external program while eww is built entirely in elisp.

w3 is written in ELisp and runs in Emacs http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3 w3m is an external program, which Emacs has a wrapper for http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3m

My apologies then, since I did not remember correctly. Thank you for enlightening!

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Building on OSX Mavericks (assuming XCode and XQuartz already around) 1) Download from http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ emacs-24.4.tar.gz emacs-24.4.tar.gz.sig 2) Confirm: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys A0B0F199 gpg --verify emacs-24.4.tar.gz.sig 3) Build (from INSTALL): cd emacs-24.4 ./configure --with-jpeg=no --with-gif=no --with-tiff=no make src/emacs -Q make install 4) run: /usr/local/bin/emacs

Alternatively, until homebrew is updated you can run brew edit emacs and change the url and sha256 to match 24.4, then run brew install emacs with whatever options you would like (brew options emacs for a list). I haven't tested this yet, but it should work, and I will report back after I've tried. edit: So this did work, I used the .tar.xz with sha256 47e391170db4ca0a3c724530c7050655f6d573a711956b4cd84693c194a9d4fd.…

Update a few hours later: without having tried it myself, it looks like the formula for emacs has been updated to 24.4:

https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/a0b095b/Library...

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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And a mail client. It's pretty much an operating system.

Someone please try the emacs as init with this release.

I tried to compile emacs statically but under archlinux I need to build ncurses (and probably others) statically too. Which is too much of a black art to me. Gonna try on debian since I believe they include static binairies in packages.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Alternatively, until homebrew is updated you can run brew edit emacs and change the url and sha256 to match 24.4, then run brew install emacs with whatever options you would like (brew options emacs for a list). I haven't tested this yet, but it should work, and I will report back after I've tried. edit: So this did work, I used the .tar.xz with sha256 47e391170db4ca0a3c724530c7050655f6d573a711956b4cd84693c194a9d4fd.…

Update a few hours later: without having tried it myself, it looks like the formula for emacs has been updated to 24.4: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/a0b095b/Library...

Sweet. Installing it when I get home.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Happy to see others mentioning eclipse. I'm learning emacs now and it impresses me a lot but I also have happy memories from both Eclipse and NetBeans. The way you can refactor whole projects at once etc is amazing. (This is partly related to Java being static and uncool as well. : )

The beauty of learning emacs keybindings is that most IDE's will have an "emacs mode". So you don't have to relearn things. But it's also useful for things like bash or OSX interfaces too, since they use the same common keybinding scheme.

This.

The emacs keybinding are used a lot of places eg: ^a to begining of line ^e to end of line is used everywhere (even the url bar of firefox/ chrome).

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Rectangular mark mode is really awesome. It makes working with rectangles a lot easier. It is now so well integrated into my workflow that I'm really annoyed when I have to use an older Emacs version.

I don't understand what is there that I can't do with rectangles in Emacs 24.3 (or even way before). I can already kill (C-x r k), yank (C-x r y), replace (C-x r t) text in rectangles, insert text after the rectangle (C-x r z) or at the beginning of all the rectangle lines (C-x r a) or their ends (C-x r e). What else is there?

The rectangle highlighting issue has been fixed[0].

http://emacsredux.com/blog/2014/01/01/a-peek-at-emacs-24-dot...

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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I don't understand what is there that I can't do with rectangles in Emacs 24.3 (or even way before). I can already kill (C-x r k), yank (C-x r y), replace (C-x r t) text in rectangles, insert text after the rectangle (C-x r z) or at the beginning of all the rectangle lines (C-x r a) or their ends (C-x r e). What else is there?

The rectangle highlighting issue has been fixed[0]. http://emacsredux.com/blog/2014/01/01/a-peek-at-emacs-24-dot...

Thanks. So that's what other already said, there is nothing more. This was a really minor issue, I don't see why it would make anyone that much happy, but it's sure nice to have it fixed.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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The rectangle highlighting issue has been fixed[0]. http://emacsredux.com/blog/2014/01/01/a-peek-at-emacs-24-dot...

Thanks. So that's what other already said, there is nothing more. This was a really minor issue, I don't see why it would make anyone that much happy, but it's sure nice to have it fixed.

It also gives you a live preview when you use C-x r t to insert text, like iedit-rectangle-mode always did (iedit is still more robust, but for most simple cases I use C-x spc now instead of it).

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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If one wants to start using Emacs is there a recommended starter package that is recommended over others instead of starting from scratch that can be learned from over time?

I want to start using Emacs, but starting with a blank slate leaves much to be desired. Especially when a someone new to Emacs doesn't know what's available or what can be done or how.

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