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Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by cbsmith »

fafner wrote: post #12
webkike wrote: post #4

I've been going off like a broken record in the comment pages for these posts, since I'm such an Emacs fanatic. But I'll say it again, this release is great! Rectangular mark mode, better web browser -- Emacs hasn't stopped getting better

Rectangular mark mode is really awesome. It makes working with rectangles a lot easier. It is now so well integrated into my workflow that I'm really annoyed when I have to use an older Emacs version.

I honestly have become so used to the rectagular mode as it is, that I'm mostly just annoyed by some of the keyboard shortcuts.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by Derbasti »

imakesnowflakes wrote: post #127

Can some one tell me why windows Emacs still does not have a working shell? One cannot easily run ssh from a shell in windows emacs. I have found that I cannot push to a bitbucket repo that uses http authentication too from the shell. But if I run them from a cmd window, these works fine. What is the technical issue that is preventing emacs from fixing this?

As far as I understand this, this is a problem with git on Windows. Shells work just fine with Emacs on Windows, it just can't supply the git password for some reason.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by imakesnowflakes »

throwaway20148 wrote: post #128
imakesnowflakes wrote: post #127

Can some one tell me why windows Emacs still does not have a working shell? One cannot easily run ssh from a shell in windows emacs. I have found that I cannot push to a bitbucket repo that uses http authentication too from the shell. But if I run them from a cmd window, these works fine. What is the technical issue that is preventing emacs from fixing this?

I don't use windows, but recently read over this thread on /r/emacs with casual interest. Maybe it will help? http://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/2jjf2f/i_just_got_ssh...

That is me! That is why I said 'One cannot easily run ssh..'. There are work arounds, like using plink or cygwin emacs and more. But it seems that every one of them is broken in some aspect. For eg, If I use cygwin, the cygwin file paths send to other command line programs (non cygwin) wont work with them. When using plink, the display of escape sequences in the command prompt, like "^[]0;vagrant@ubuntu-14:", and difficulty in working with programs like vagrant that uses ssh indirectly.

And as far as I saw, none of them provides a working auto completion in the context of remote file system. Another thing is that I cannot push to a remote repo using http authentication.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by zvrba »

Derbasti wrote: post #132
imakesnowflakes wrote: post #127

Can some one tell me why windows Emacs still does not have a working shell? One cannot easily run ssh from a shell in windows emacs. I have found that I cannot push to a bitbucket repo that uses http authentication too from the shell. But if I run them from a cmd window, these works fine. What is the technical issue that is preventing emacs from fixing this?

As far as I understand this, this is a problem with git on Windows. Shells work just fine with Emacs on Windows, it just can't supply the git password for some reason.

> Shells work just fine with Emacs on Windows

Except they don't. File-name completion replaced all backslashes with forward slashes, thus breaking cmd.exe's built-in commands. I reported a bug; it started a short discussion; i was asked whether I had to use cmd.exe (YES, I have reasons for why I MUST use it); nobody really acknowledged it was a bug; the discussion died off in talk about some internal details. (The 24.4 binary package is not yet available for windows so I couldn't test it.)

See the thread here: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8132

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by throwaway20148 »

imakesnowflakes wrote: post #133
throwaway20148 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use windows, but recently read over this thread on /r/emacs with casual interest. Maybe it will help? http://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/2jjf2f/i_just_got_ssh...

That is me! That is why I said 'One cannot easily run ssh..'. There are work arounds, like using plink or cygwin emacs and more. But it seems that every one of them is broken in some aspect. For eg, If I use cygwin, the cygwin file paths send to other command line programs (non cygwin) wont work with them. When using plink, the display of escape sequences in the command prompt, like "^[]0;vagrant@ubuntu-14:", and dif…

Haha, wow. I didn't put the usernames together. Good luck and I hope you figure out a solution!

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by Derbasti »

evanspa wrote: post #87
CDRdude wrote: post #65

I'm a comparative youngin to most of the people here, and I've never tried emacs. I'd like to learn my way around it someday, but I don't know how high of a priority I should place on it. I've managed to pick up enough vim to make my life easier, would learning my way around emacs also get me a productivity boost? How good is evil mode?

For what it's worth, I learned Emacs out of my desire to learn Clojure. It didn't take too long to develop the muscle memory (a few months of forcing myself to use it). Now, 6 or so years later, I use Emacs for essentially all ad-hoc text editing jobs, and of course Clojure dev. I love using it for my shell (M-x shell) - being able to move about the shell buffer w/out limit is very liberating. I also do a lot of iOS…

There is this incredible tool called Karabiner (https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/). Among the many things it can do are Emacs key bindings. I used it to enable more Emacs key bindings in OSX, for example M-f and M-b.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by Derbasti »

Dewie wrote: post #54
baby wrote: post #8

> A built-in web browser (M-x eww) What ! Anyone has screenshots of that? Is there a windows release somewhere?

I've been thinking about using a simpler browser for reading simple documents. The motivation is to have a sort of "minimalism", as in using simpler programs to do simple things, and not get easily distracted by all the bells and whistles in a more complex application (like for example Firefox). This, I think, would be aided by using a simpler browser that could for example be run in a virtual terminal for reading th…

I think that there are plenty of people who do what you describe in the terminal.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by Derbasti »

zvrba wrote: post #135
Derbasti wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I understand this, this is a problem with git on Windows. Shells work just fine with Emacs on Windows, it just can't supply the git password for some reason.

> Shells work just fine with Emacs on Windows Except they don't. File-name completion replaced all backslashes with forward slashes, thus breaking cmd.exe's built-in commands. I reported a bug; it started a short discussion; i was asked whether I had to use cmd.exe (YES, I have reasons for why I MUST use it); nobody really acknowledged it was a bug; the discussion died off in talk about some internal details. (The 24…

I actually had a similar problem in the past. My workaround was to use some utilities from gnuwin32, which are native windows ports of the gnu utilities. With that, you can use gnu mkdir, rm, ls etc instead of the cmd builtins.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by teddyh »

imakesnowflakes wrote: post #127

Can some one tell me why windows Emacs still does not have a working shell? One cannot easily run ssh from a shell in windows emacs. I have found that I cannot push to a bitbucket repo that uses http authentication too from the shell. But if I run them from a cmd window, these works fine. What is the technical issue that is preventing emacs from fixing this?

If M-x eshell or M-x shell is not enough, you should try M-x terminal-emulator or even M-x ansi-term.
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