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Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by tedunangst »

jmount wrote: post #99

Building on OSX Mavericks (assuming XCode and XQuartz already around) 1) Download from http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ emacs-24.4.tar.gz emacs-24.4.tar.gz.sig 2) Confirm: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys A0B0F199 gpg --verify emacs-24.4.tar.gz.sig 3) Build (from INSTALL): cd emacs-24.4 ./configure --with-jpeg=no --with-gif=no --with-tiff=no make src/emacs -Q make install 4) run: /usr/local/bin/emacs

Your key fetching command is vulnerable to the deadbeef attack. That could be anybody's key.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by tuhdo »

CDRdude wrote: post #65

I'm a comparative youngin to most of the people here, and I've never tried emacs. I'd like to learn my way around it someday, but I don't know how high of a priority I should place on it. I've managed to pick up enough vim to make my life easier, would learning my way around emacs also get me a productivity boost? How good is evil mode?

You can check my mini manual to quickly be productive with Emacs: http://tuhdo.github.io/emacs-tutor.html

Also check my other guides, even just to see Emacs's awesomeness: http://tuhdo.github.io/

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by tuhdo »

viksit wrote: post #67
fafner wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it is limited by Emacs' display engine. It is obviously not supposed to replace your default browser. But it is usually good enough to view html documentation. Which is really something you want inside your editor.

Actually - it would be cool if there was something that allowed you to render markdown atleast. Also, is this display limitation a function of the OS? In which case, shouldn't Cocoa/GTK or other versions not have this issue and be able to actually embed nicer rendering in there with nice fonts?

This web browser in Emacs is usable inside a terminal, and it displays HTML really nice. Much better than something like elink. Other GUI web browser is not.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by chetanahuja »

dimitar wrote: post #98
jazzychad wrote: post #90

I think this thread is my best shot at getting this question answered.. I've been using Emacs 23.x for the last several years because the buffer-switcher behavior changed in Emacs 24 and I have no idea how (or if it's even possible) to get the previous behavior back? In Emacs 23 and below (for as long as I've used Emacs), I would change buffers by hitting F10-b (F10 brings up menu, b is shortcut for Buffers). Then th…

Have you tried ido mode? Ido-switch-buffer works nicely and it can be customized.

Apparently, Helm is the latest hotness in that department. http://tuhdo.github.io/helm-intro.html

It should be just an M-x package-install away at this point

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by wging »

ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #47

In Ubuntu I'm unable to activate orgtbl-mode unless I first switch to org-mode. This didn't happen with Emacs 23. Has anybody experienced the same? How can I check if this has been reported? Thanks. Edit: Seriously, people? You take the time to downvote and not to point in a direction to contribute to make Emacs better? So much for the attacks on Stack Overflow and its strict policies and policing... And anyway, how…

There's actually a StackExchange site specifically for emacs now: https://emacs.stackexchange.com

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by mitchty »

chetanahuja wrote: post #114
dimitar wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried ido mode? Ido-switch-buffer works nicely and it can be customized.

Apparently, Helm is the latest hotness in that department. http://tuhdo.github.io/helm-intro.html It should be just an M-x package-install away at this point

Helm is much much better than ido mode once you get past the whole "stop hitting tab so much you shell heathen!" thing.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by flyrain »

broodbucket wrote: post #66
agumonkey wrote: post #63

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Someone please try the emacs as init with this release.

Someone's already tried this. http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux....

It's very interesting. It seems a neat solution. Anyone go further? Really work on it?

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by tuhdo »

webkike wrote: post #37
melling wrote: post #35

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You know what Emacs is? It's a big Lisp interpreter. It was made to be extensible so that it could do anything. It could be your IDE, for example. http://cedet.sourceforge.net The problem is that it isn't a good enough Lisp engine to be very good at anything beyond the great text editor, which it has been since the early 1980's. Avoiding the really hard problems and building a better emacs browser doesn't really help…

What? Emacs isn't a big Lisp interpreter. It's a text editor that is extensible with Emacs Lisp. Sure it contains a Lisp interpreter, but saying that Emacs is only a Lisp interpreter implies that the entirety of the text editor is implemented in Lisp, which is clearly not the case. I use Emacs as a text editor, which means I use it to edit anything that has text. Granted that is a huge part of my computing needs. I d…

Emacs is in essence, a virtual machine: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ByteCodeEngineering. That's why you are able to do so many things with it. The whole text editor GUI is just a frontend the Lisp interpreter. You can think that Python comes with an interpreter that runs in terminal. Emacs comes with an interpreter and a whole GUI frontend for its interpreter, not merely a terminal interpreter with a prompt. That's why you are able to evaluate any Emacs Lisp code ANYWHERE.

If you only use Emacs as a text editor, that's fine for using a subset of it. Just like a casual user uses Linux without never using its underlying tools in the terminal.

> saying that Emacs is only a Lisp interpreter implies that the entirety of the text editor is implemented in Lisp, which is clearly not the case.

With this argument, I guess Python is also not an interpreter because clearly it is not entirely written in Python.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by sjm »

foobarqux wrote: post #109
sjm wrote: post #104

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With ido-everywhere, flx-ido and ido-vertical-mode you can get nice, fast buffer-switching with fuzzy matching via C-x b. See these two screenshots for an example: http://imgur.com/a/sZk8m

helm is better

I've tried helm a few times but I can never stick with it. It definitely looks impressive, but I think it takes up too much room and I end up preferring the minimalism of ido in comparison.

Re: Emacs 24.4 released

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Post by jmount »

tedunangst wrote: post #111
jmount wrote: post #99

Building on OSX Mavericks (assuming XCode and XQuartz already around) 1) Download from http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ emacs-24.4.tar.gz emacs-24.4.tar.gz.sig 2) Confirm: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys A0B0F199 gpg --verify emacs-24.4.tar.gz.sig 3) Build (from INSTALL): cd emacs-24.4 ./configure --with-jpeg=no --with-gif=no --with-tiff=no make src/emacs -Q make install 4) run: /usr/local/bin/emacs

Your key fetching command is vulnerable to the deadbeef attack. That could be anybody's key.

True, I didn't find any notes on what key to use and the key I typed in is the one the signature itself said was missing (so it is in fact a bad choice). Your criticism is valid. Sorry if I misled anyone, I meant to fix that but I didn't find much guidance on the gnu site as to what signatures to load to bootstrap trust.
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