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Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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How can everyone--including O'Callahan--be giving Apple a free pass on this issue? Pointer events are a great example of Apple's obstructionism. The W3C tried for years to standardize touch events and Apple blocked them several times by claiming patent rights. Microsoft proposed pointer events, and everyone seems to agree that they are much better as a future standard and a way to unify pointer models, but Apple seem…

apple are nowhere near googles market share.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Lock-in has already begun on Chrome. Now you can't install Chrome extensions from anywhere else but the Chrome store (which means only stuff Google agrees with). Chrome is as closed-down as iOS and WP8 right now (For shame, Google!). It's actually the main reasons I'm waiting to switch from it soon. But not until Firefox gets a security sandbox.

This is not lock in (not for the purpose of lock-in anyway) - it's for security reasons and it is in fact exclusive to Windows. Chrome was getting abused by thousands of extra-crapware installers which would install extra extensions etc. They have taken a gradual response to the issue but it always came down to ">99% of outside extensions installed on windows are crapware. This is exclusive to Windows due to its perm…

Not sure. Extensions are locked down in Mac as well unless developer builds are used.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Almost every other comment that have been posted so far are complaining that FF tabs are not independent processes. Let me express my contrarian opinion. For my use case FF is just excellent and has served me well, I have absolutely no complains now. There was a time when FF leaked, and held a lot of memory, that time has since passed, at least seams so. I regularly keep several hundreds of tabs open for months on en…

PRODUCTIVITY of 100 TABS? Why not show us how productive you are with hundreds of tabs open in FF? Or for that matter any other browser?

It's really easy with an extension like [Tree Style Tab](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...), or by using Tab Groups.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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post #124

One thing I want to point out immediately when I saw this post: Chrome makes virus-like auto-update, It just freak me out. Google keeps their product auto-update and gave a reason: better services, but ALL I CAN FEEL is FINFISHER is coming closer and closer. Second, Firefox give me more freedom so far. I can install whatever plugin I want, regardless whether violate Google's terms of service. Instant example, you can…

Chrome doesn't auto-update on Linux, nor presumably in other platforms with working package managers. Windows software is expected to update itself or ask the user to do it, so Google took the approach that was easiest for non-technical users, which IMO is much better for their security.

When users are running an old, unpatched version of a browser, you don't need very advanced tactics to pwn their machines...

And for what is worth, there must be a way to disable Chrome automatic updates, because the PortableApps version of it doesn't (or didn't, a while ago) auto-update.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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what tab addon do you use?

Not op, but I just use the built-in one. On OS X, press CMD+shift+e and you'll get a overview of tab groups, you can create new groups, etc. I have a "main" group (the default one) and one group per pet project, subject, etc. I tend to use these instead of bookmarks, since they stay around even if the browser crashes.

Tab Groups are great. Its one of my favorite Firefox features.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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post #69
post #43

Almost every other comment that have been posted so far are complaining that FF tabs are not independent processes. Let me express my contrarian opinion. For my use case FF is just excellent and has served me well, I have absolutely no complains now. There was a time when FF leaked, and held a lot of memory, that time has since passed, at least seams so. I regularly keep several hundreds of tabs open for months on en…

Have to agree: For me firefox performance is much better. I currently have 413 tabs open, use a 3 year old lenovo laptop, everything works flawless and is responsive, unlike chrome.

413 tabs?? why?

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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This is not lock in (not for the purpose of lock-in anyway) - it's for security reasons and it is in fact exclusive to Windows. Chrome was getting abused by thousands of extra-crapware installers which would install extra extensions etc. They have taken a gradual response to the issue but it always came down to ">99% of outside extensions installed on windows are crapware. This is exclusive to Windows due to its perm…

additionally, on the google help page explaining all of that, it also has a guide explaining how to get around the restriction (which is easy as, drag from the download bar onto the extensions page (last time I used it at least))

You cannot do that anymore. You cannot install extensions from outside Chrome Web Store. Period.

Believe developer builds and Chromium are the only choices.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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I can see what you are saying, but NACL is a big deal. It isn't ONLY c/c++ but any language that can compile with LLVM, which is almost every language. Think about it, new scripting languages, new compiled languages, anything language you care about. You want to write in Haskell? fine... do so, and have it run instead of javascript. This IS a big big deal. No language is perfect, so the ability to use any of them? It…

I don't need to "think about it", I've experienced the idea before, twice. Do you remember Java Applets? Do you remember ActiveX controls? Do you remember Flash and/or Shockwave?

"Native Client avoids these issues by using sandboxing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Native_Client

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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PRODUCTIVITY of 100 TABS? When it comes for FF performance, what is the market share breakdown of number of tabs open versus those who scream the loudest?

# of open tabs - % MarketShare 1 50%??? 2 3 5 7 10 12 15 20 25 50 100?? 200 tabs open?

And also do it by browser type?

Plus Why not show us how productive you are with hundreds of tabs open in FF? Or for that matter any other browser?

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