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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by wingerlang » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:23 AM UTC

tachion wrote: post #21

wingerlang wrote: post #8

I've gone back to FF after using Chrome literally form the day it landed. I changed because of vimperator + the ability to theme the header slimmer (i'm on laptop 24/7). But frankly it kind of sucks a bit and I have to jump over to Chrome a lot because almost no videos will play in FF.

Can you elaborate a bit about how you've slimmed Firefox header? I am also working 24/7 on a laptop and I value my screen estate a lot so one of main reasons I dont use Firefox is that its header and tabs consume the largest amount of screen space from Chrome/Safari/Firefox trio...

I modified an existing theme [0] and now it looks like this http://imgur.com/kkXpFHX still not pretty but it stays out of the way so I don't really care at the moment.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/littlefox-for...

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by wingerlang » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:24 AM UTC

blissofbeing wrote: post #23

wingerlang wrote: post #8

I've gone back to FF after using Chrome literally form the day it landed. I changed because of vimperator + the ability to theme the header slimmer (i'm on laptop 24/7). But frankly it kind of sucks a bit and I have to jump over to Chrome a lot because almost no videos will play in FF.

Which theme are you using in FF to make the header more compact?

I replied to the same question in another comment, just trying to avoid repeating.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by srean » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:24 AM UTC

Almost every other comment that have been posted so far are complaining that FF tabs are not independent processes. Let me express my contrarian opinion. For my use case FF is just excellent and has served me well, I have absolutely no complains now. There was a time when FF leaked, and held a lot of memory, that time has since passed, at least seams so.

I regularly keep several hundreds of tabs open for months on end on my PCs one a 32 bit m/c another a 64 bit both with about a Gig of RAM (one a shade below 1 Gig). Trying to do the same with Chrome has been a torture.

I have used Chrome, its pretty good, but am very happy with FF. Some people get allergic reactions when I mention keeping so many tabs open, I have commented about it here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2936369#up_2936784

A few others have a snark ready, "buy some RAM", I perhaps could, but I would rather use my RAM for other purposes than clogging it with a browser (cat pictures), window manager eye candy etc. In addition, this low RAM environment has turned out to be a good filter, software written without much attention to detail or resource efficiency just doesnt run well, and thats perfectly fine with me. I like hanging out with better ones.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by ishansharma » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:24 AM UTC

recalibrator wrote: post #25

Developers, please stop making add-ons and extensions for Google products. You accelerate Google's domination and vendor lock-in when you do.

This is a very important point. I switched to Firefox mainly due to intertial scrolling and better fonts (Chrome looks crap till this 37 beta and needs a flag).

Extensions are more powerful on Firefox but I think they are coplicated as well. There are many popular extensions that just don't have updates on Firefox. One example is Evernote. I used it a lot on Chrome but their Firefox extension is almost 1 year old version and Chrome/Opera extensions have much better UI now. I hope this improves soon.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by wingerlang » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:25 AM UTC

ama729 wrote: post #38

tachion wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate a bit about how you've slimmed Firefox header? I am also working 24/7 on a laptop and I value my screen estate a lot so one of main reasons I dont use Firefox is that its header and tabs consume the largest amount of screen space from Chrome/Safari/Firefox trio...

In Vimperator you can do this: :set toolbars=nonavigation,notabs (it will remove tabs and the navigation menu)

Yep, I can't stand having them completely gone though.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by ishansharma » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:27 AM UTC

srean wrote: post #43

Almost every other comment that have been posted so far are complaining that FF tabs are not independent processes. Let me express my contrarian opinion. For my use case FF is just excellent and has served me well, I have absolutely no complains now. There was a time when FF leaked, and held a lot of memory, that time has since passed, at least seams so. I regularly keep several hundreds of tabs open for months on en…

My experience with multiple tabs has been same. In my exeprience (and I read somewhere as well), Chrome shows up UI faster, then responds after 2-3 seconds. Firefox is respnsive from start.

Multiple tab management with Panorama is much better (Chrome has a few similar extensions but don't work that well!) and I like the scrolling interfacce of multiple tabs rather than Chrome's approach of compressing everything!

Recently, Chrome has crashed more for me than Firefox and some of the extensions and features on Firefox are miles ahead.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by Fizzadar » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:27 AM UTC

I will use Firefox when a single tab can't cause the entire browser to pause. Until then, for better or worse, Chrome wins.

EDIT: Would much prefer Opera if it supported all my Chrome extensions.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by rikkus » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:29 AM UTC

wingerlang wrote: post #8

I've gone back to FF after using Chrome literally form the day it landed. I changed because of vimperator + the ability to theme the header slimmer (i'm on laptop 24/7). But frankly it kind of sucks a bit and I have to jump over to Chrome a lot because almost no videos will play in FF.

Chrome has Vimium, but I haven't used either enough to compare them. On laptop, I sometimes ctrl+shift+b to hide the Chrome toolbar.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by binaryanomaly » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:30 AM UTC

filippovitale wrote: post #28

ekianjo wrote: post #16

This guy writes against Google world domination using Blogger. A good example of how to shoot down your credibility. But hey, he is a hacker. Looks like its out of a hackers reach to host your blog. But choose Mozilla. By the way isnt Mozilla like 90 percent financed by Google?

That is funny indeed... BTW Google fund Mozilla with 300M$ every year! ...and they are competing on: Chrome Firefox Android Firefox OS http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/01/22/so-why-is...

Firefox would probably not exist anymore without Google...

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by tachion » Sat, Aug 16, 2014, 11:31 AM UTC

wingerlang wrote: post #41

tachion wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate a bit about how you've slimmed Firefox header? I am also working 24/7 on a laptop and I value my screen estate a lot so one of main reasons I dont use Firefox is that its header and tabs consume the largest amount of screen space from Chrome/Safari/Firefox trio...

I modified an existing theme [0] and now it looks like this http://imgur.com/kkXpFHX still not pretty but it stays out of the way so I don't really care at the moment. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/littlefox-for...

I dont mean to insult you, but this looks just ugly, and the UI seems to be way too small to be used with comfort. I wonder if there's really no way to stop Firefox from wasting that space above the tabs, just like Chrome does it...