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Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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I agree with Paul Graham on this one. "Has any other company grown to Google's size and remained as benevolent? (Not saying they're perfect, just the best that big.)" (https://twitter.com/paulg/status/495948643149426688) I'll stick with Chrome for now as I find it slightly better than firefox.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Developers, please stop making add-ons and extensions for Google products. You accelerate Google's domination and vendor lock-in when you do.

You could say that about building an app or add-on for literally any product.

Not with a straight face.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

#63
> Google is bent on establishing platform domination unlike anything we've ever seen, even from late-1990s Microsoft.

With `bent` you mean like they're trying to build the best products people would want to use? What should they do instead, not try as hard?

> Google controls Android, which is winning; Chrome, which is winning; and key Web properties in Search, Youtube, Gmail and Docs, which are all winning.

IOTW success of a competitor is bad.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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post #16

This guy writes against Google world domination using Blogger. A good example of how to shoot down your credibility. But hey, he is a hacker. Looks like its out of a hackers reach to host your blog. But choose Mozilla. By the way isnt Mozilla like 90 percent financed by Google?

Yes this is true which is even more risky for the fate of a standardized web. Right now and in the past it was very important for Google to do this for 2 reasons: 1. They get to be the default search for a huge amount of people, and 2: They support someone who was making a competing product against another company doing lock-in for their own benefit (Microsoft).

However, what if one day Google Chrome has 70%+ market share? Then the Chrome only creep will continue. You can already tell that they are doing a lot of Chrome only things on their web properties as with the nightly chrome builds you get occasional Google property only weird bugs. If Chrome had a massive market share they can then not have to bother supporting Mozilla or web standards. They can then leverage Chrome to have an advantage in performance and even monetization of Google products over others.

You can say right now Google has not done this, but they are doing small things here and there that are going down that route. Altruism is not a trait companies are known to keep for long, especially when there is no competition.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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post #24
post #16

This guy writes against Google world domination using Blogger. A good example of how to shoot down your credibility. But hey, he is a hacker. Looks like its out of a hackers reach to host your blog. But choose Mozilla. By the way isnt Mozilla like 90 percent financed by Google?

Even funnier, over 80% of Mozillas income is from Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Google

I would love to see you explain the funny part about it. :)

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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post #61

I agree with Paul Graham on this one. "Has any other company grown to Google's size and remained as benevolent? (Not saying they're perfect, just the best that big.)" ( https://twitter.com/paulg/status/495948643149426688 ) I'll stick with Chrome for now as I find it slightly better than firefox.

While I do agree, there have been many signs that times they are a changin'

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

#67

Mozilla's persistent over-promotion of the legacy technologies (HTML, JS, CSS) as the only acceptable way of web development is a very strong turn-off for me. NaCl let's you use e.g. C# in-browser without shitty and low-performance workarounds like transpiling. I hope it will become mainstream.

is this meant to be a joke/sarcasm?

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

#68

I've gone back to FF after using Chrome literally form the day it landed. I changed because of vimperator + the ability to theme the header slimmer (i'm on laptop 24/7). But frankly it kind of sucks a bit and I have to jump over to Chrome a lot because almost no videos will play in FF.

Firefox 33 will have native h.264 support so that will solve the video problem.

September 2nd will bring 33beta

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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post #43

Almost every other comment that have been posted so far are complaining that FF tabs are not independent processes. Let me express my contrarian opinion. For my use case FF is just excellent and has served me well, I have absolutely no complains now. There was a time when FF leaked, and held a lot of memory, that time has since passed, at least seams so. I regularly keep several hundreds of tabs open for months on en…

Have to agree: For me firefox performance is much better. I currently have 413 tabs open, use a 3 year old lenovo laptop, everything works flawless and is responsive, unlike chrome.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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post #39

If the premise here is that Google is the evil empire, why is Google still on the Home Page when running Firefox?? Apparently large sums of money can have an effect on ethics. Obviously the underlying goal here is a plea for more FF marketshare, but it's a tad hypocritical if the message is to not use services from a company you're promoting yourself. That's do as I say, not as I do type stuff.

It's not like they have a choice now, the other choice here is to shut down the company. That's also why they launched Firefox OS, they hope in the future to depend less on Google.
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