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Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a setting in Adblock Plus that allows you to turn the "unintrusive ads" whitelist off. You don't need a separate add-on. I haven't felt the need to change the setting.

As far as I'm concerned, this is like a malware author asking an antivirus company to not detect some things. And the company acquiescing, because there's no real harm. But in the end, it's all still malware. In other words, it's a pretty massive conflict of interest. If I wanted to look at ads, I wouldn't have installed an ad blocking plugin. Combined with the "private" list that nobody can see, there is plenty of r…

For your use case, acceptable ads definitely doesn't fit but a lot of people justify what they're doing as not-unethical (getting content without compensating creators) by saying that they're only protecting themselves from abusive ads, and blocking all ads is basically the only way to do this.

For these people, your malware example falls flat. A more accurate example would be a firewall whitelisting known non-malware software. At least in theory, that's how the acceptable ads feature works.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I'm concerned, this is like a malware author asking an antivirus company to not detect some things. And the company acquiescing, because there's no real harm. But in the end, it's all still malware. In other words, it's a pretty massive conflict of interest. If I wanted to look at ads, I wouldn't have installed an ad blocking plugin. Combined with the "private" list that nobody can see, there is plenty of r…

It's not a private list: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads#list https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/exceptionrules.tx...

There are two "allow" methods, one from the acceptable ads list, which is public, and another via an "x-adblock-key" that can be provided in an HTTP header. There is no list of which sites use the key.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I'm concerned, this is like a malware author asking an antivirus company to not detect some things. And the company acquiescing, because there's no real harm. But in the end, it's all still malware. In other words, it's a pretty massive conflict of interest. If I wanted to look at ads, I wouldn't have installed an ad blocking plugin. Combined with the "private" list that nobody can see, there is plenty of r…

It's not a private list: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads#list https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/exceptionrules.tx...

as wreegab pointed out earlier

> So in fact there is really a public list and a private list it appears (through the x-adblock-key header), while the public list is presented as all there is to "acceptable ads".

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8103119

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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That looks amazing. Is there anything similar for Firefox? Edit: relevant issue: https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard/issues/86

No. They're working on a firefox port, but it will take some time (you can checkout the github issue). It's the only extension I really envy. Firefox does have Adblock Edge (open source adblock without the silliness).

I this point, I am pretty much the only developer (there are contributors for translations, issues), and working on this more as a hobby (I do not want this project to be more than this). As much as I would like to, I just don't have the time to work on a Firefox port for the time being.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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post #107
post #63

He surely just forgot to mention that Google allegedly payed 25 million € to Eyeo GmbH, the company behind Adblock Plus, in order to participate in the "acceptable ads" program, a "feature" which is turned on by default and allows users to "surf more comfortably". And that he is (or at least was) one of the directors. I'm most certain that there are people out there who would call this business model "blackmailing",…

AdBlock Plus sold out. Google's Sponsored features continue to be automatically white-listed as part of that deal, even when "acceptable ads" is not selected. You can't block them using Element Hiding Helper. AdBlock Edge is the only true ad blocker: http://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1mcsko/adblock_edge...

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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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post #107
post #63

He surely just forgot to mention that Google allegedly payed 25 million € to Eyeo GmbH, the company behind Adblock Plus, in order to participate in the "acceptable ads" program, a "feature" which is turned on by default and allows users to "surf more comfortably". And that he is (or at least was) one of the directors. I'm most certain that there are people out there who would call this business model "blackmailing",…

AdBlock Plus sold out. Google's Sponsored features continue to be automatically white-listed as part of that deal, even when "acceptable ads" is not selected. You can't block them using Element Hiding Helper. AdBlock Edge is the only true ad blocker: http://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1mcsko/adblock_edge...

I mentioned this on wladimirs blog a few hours ago and he's yet to approve my comment. I asked if he knew about it and what he though about it.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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post #21

Adblock Edge, since it doesn't contain the 'paid for exemptions' (aka ads). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/ "Adblock Edge is a fork of the Adblock Plus version 2.1.2 extension for blocking advertisements on the web. This fork will provide the same features as Adblock Plus 2.X and higher but without "acceptable ads" feature. Adblock Edge was primarily branched off from Adblock Plus 2.1.2 s…

Does anyone have any evidence against Adblock Edge?

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

#129
post #22

Ooh, whitelisting of ads via partnerships. That's shady as fuck for an ad blocking company.

It does feel shady, but on the other hand I can't really argue with their logic: - ads are an important revenue stream on the web, so allow unintrusive/inoffensive ads by default - to do this, companies need to agree to keep all ads under a certain URL pattern "unintrusive" by ABP's definition - investigating and enforcing the nature of the ads in the whitelist costs money, so make this service free for "small to med…

I think it makes sense, though the fact that the whitelisting costs money creates some perverse incentives.

People use adblock for different reasons though: some are actually against advertising as a concept, full stop.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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post #11

I've posted this on previous ad blocking threads, and I'll post it again because I think it's very relevant— > "Adblock without the plus" isn't the original Adblock (from which Adblock Plus was forked), it's an extension created for Google Chrome once Google Chrome enabled support for extensions. Very disingenuous name. It piggy-backed on the work already done for Adblock Plus (for Firefox). > Adblock Plus for Google…

I highly recommends HTTPS Switchboard or uBlock (same author). They are both faster and better than any Adblocker out there.

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