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Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by diminoten »

mhaymo wrote: post #22
diminoten wrote: post #3

Ooh, whitelisting of ads via partnerships. That's shady as fuck for an ad blocking company.

It does feel shady, but on the other hand I can't really argue with their logic: - ads are an important revenue stream on the web, so allow unintrusive/inoffensive ads by default - to do this, companies need to agree to keep all ads under a certain URL pattern "unintrusive" by ABP's definition - investigating and enforcing the nature of the ads in the whitelist costs money, so make this service free for "small to med…

It'd be a shame if anything were to... happen to the ads on your site.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by 13throwaway »

beaumartinez wrote: post #5

I've posted this on previous ad blocking threads, and I'll post it again because I think it's very relevant— > "Adblock without the plus" isn't the original Adblock (from which Adblock Plus was forked), it's an extension created for Google Chrome once Google Chrome enabled support for extensions. Very disingenuous name. It piggy-backed on the work already done for Adblock Plus (for Firefox). > Adblock Plus for Google…

That looks amazing. Is there anything similar for Firefox?

Edit: relevant issue: https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard/issues/86

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by xeroaura »

josho wrote: post #35
callesgg wrote: post #8

I have a long /etc/host file with many of the worst tracking/ad services that i have found. Blocks of a very large portion of the stuff that i do not like.

I've been tempted to one up this approach by running a local DNS server that will direct all those ad hosts to a local server, then write a simple web app that will handle all those requests by serving up motivational quotes instead of ads. The upside here is it becomes an effective adblock for iOS when on the local network. I'm not sure how to extend this so that it will work when my iPhone is on an LTE network.

I think you could set up a proxy server and use Apple's iPhone Configuration Utility to load a proxy for cellular data use. If you're jailbroken, you could also put a host file directly on the device, but it does slow it down a bit.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by [deleted] »

fonosip wrote: post #49
616c wrote: post #31

If people prefer more extreme solutions: I eventually moved to Conkeror (think Firefox, but with Emacs bindings and Emacs-like extension via javascript; I know cue the egg throwing). I was looking at other browsers to replace Firefox, as I got sick of it, and I picked Conkeror. Conkeror has a neat little feature called content-policy. I can block kinds of crap per session or site (Flash, JS, Fonts, Object tags, Image…

DNS based Adblock, profile and Malware block. Make your Internet Faster and Safer with free http://BA.net/adblock

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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by jobu »

eik3_de wrote: post #7
diminoten wrote: post #3

Ooh, whitelisting of ads via partnerships. That's shady as fuck for an ad blocking company.

see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus#Controversy_over... I'd never use Adblock Plus, that's more than shady

Not sure why you were downvoted. Assuming that wikipedia entry is correct (which is sometimes questionable) then it looks like both AdBlock and AdBlock Plus are being shady as hell with their "strategic partners".

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by ryandvm »

modzoo wrote: post #46

THE POINT OF THE AD BLOCKER IS TO BLOCK ADS. ITS NOT UP FOR DEBATE. THE AUTHORS OF BOTH ARE BEING DISINGENUOUS. its like supplying weapons to both sides of a war. and guys cut the "internet needs ads" crap. i have a couple of businesses and apps and make a profit because people value them and value the support i provide for them and recommend them. kind of like why hackernews works -- its legit recommendations, not s…

I wouldn't go as far as to say "the internet needs ads", but clearly if you're running an ad blocker, the sites you visit do need ads.

Ad blocking is textbook prisoner's dilemma. As long as it's only being done by a minority, it's no big deal - but if we all do it, we're fucked.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by x1798DE »

billmalarky wrote: post #38
miah_ wrote: post #21

Adblock Edge, since it doesn't contain the 'paid for exemptions' (aka ads). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/ "Adblock Edge is a fork of the Adblock Plus version 2.1.2 extension for blocking advertisements on the web. This fork will provide the same features as Adblock Plus 2.X and higher but without "acceptable ads" feature. Adblock Edge was primarily branched off from Adblock Plus 2.1.2 s…

So are you saying that adblock allows certain publishers to pay them to have their ads go through adblock? How is that anything other than a extortion racket?

Adblock maintains a curated whitelist of approved, unobtrustive ads that most people don't mind seeing (text ads, etc). Last I heard, big companies wanting to submit their ads to the whitelist pay a fee, while small companies can have theirs added to the list for free - presumably this is justified based on the volume of ads that would be added to the list. There's a setting in the Adblock preferences to block even ads on the whitelist.

Some people make it out to be something sinister, potentially because "show unobtrustive ads" is on by default. Given that most people haven't even noticed that they're seeing these ads, I'm not convinced it's a big deal.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by lmm »

616c wrote: post #31

If people prefer more extreme solutions: I eventually moved to Conkeror (think Firefox, but with Emacs bindings and Emacs-like extension via javascript; I know cue the egg throwing). I was looking at other browsers to replace Firefox, as I got sick of it, and I picked Conkeror. Conkeror has a neat little feature called content-policy. I can block kinds of crap per session or site (Flash, JS, Fonts, Object tags, Image…

That's a really unfortunate name for a browser given that Konqueror already exists (and is a really good, underappreciated browser).

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by wreegab »

I pretty much all agree with all of Wladimir Palant's post.

But I also have one problem regarding Adblock Plus' "acceptable ads" openness.

When I read about their "acceptable ads" approach, I am led to believe the "acceptable ads" list contains all the sites which are whitelisted for purpose of "acceptable ads". I am invited to consult the list to see for myself which sites qualify.[1]

Problem is, many web sites are not whitelisted through that publicly available list, but through the x-adblock-key HTTP header (which is not something disclosed up front to users).

So in fact there is really a public list and a private list it appears (through the x-adblock-key header), while the public list is presented as all there is to "acceptable ads".

[1] https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads#list

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by mhurron »

fonosip wrote: post #49
616c wrote: post #31

If people prefer more extreme solutions: I eventually moved to Conkeror (think Firefox, but with Emacs bindings and Emacs-like extension via javascript; I know cue the egg throwing). I was looking at other browsers to replace Firefox, as I got sick of it, and I picked Conkeror. Conkeror has a neat little feature called content-policy. I can block kinds of crap per session or site (Flash, JS, Fonts, Object tags, Image…

DNS based Adblock, profile and Malware block. Make your Internet Faster and Safer with free http://BA.net/adblock

Too bad they don't make the DNS entries they block public.
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