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That's a really unfortunate name for a browser given that Konqueror already exists (and is a really good, underappreciated browser).
Haha. Well if you check out the wiki I think it was not intentional (they name it after a local beer IIRC).
Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#82I've posted this on previous ad blocking threads, and I'll post it again because I think it's very relevant— > "Adblock without the plus" isn't the original Adblock (from which Adblock Plus was forked), it's an extension created for Google Chrome once Google Chrome enabled support for extensions. Very disingenuous name. It piggy-backed on the work already done for Adblock Plus (for Firefox). > Adblock Plus for Google…
That looks amazing. Is there anything similar for Firefox? Edit: relevant issue: https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard/issues/86
No. They're working on a firefox port, but it will take some time (you can checkout the github issue). It's the only extension I really envy.
Firefox does have Adblock Edge (open source adblock without the silliness).
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
ABP's free. Getting on the whitelist is also free for "all small- and medium websites and blogs". https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements If you're ok with blocking ads, I don't see how allowing companies to pay a fee to have them unblocked hurts anyone. If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky.
Yes, but whitelist is supposed to be for unobtrusive and not tracking ads. Then Google pays and… it is on whitelist! I cannot help but think that by using ABP instead of Adblock Edge you are giving ABP developers means to blackmail advertising companies. And not getting the protection you want in the first place.
That's not my understanding of how it works. You cannot pay to get obtrusive or tracking ads on the whitelist. If you are a large company (how exactly that's defined isn't clear), you need to pay to get your unobtrusive ads whitelisted.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#84"Privacy Badger" is the only option nowadays.
No whitelisting, and no corrupt companies behind, doing the whitelisting.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
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There's a setting in Adblock Plus that allows you to turn the "unintrusive ads" whitelist off. You don't need a separate add-on. I haven't felt the need to change the setting.
As far as I'm concerned, this is like a malware author asking an antivirus company to not detect some things. And the company acquiescing, because there's no real harm. But in the end, it's all still malware. In other words, it's a pretty massive conflict of interest. If I wanted to look at ads, I wouldn't have installed an ad blocking plugin. Combined with the "private" list that nobody can see, there is plenty of r…
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ya, I'd rather not give them money if their policy is to allow some ads if given $.
ABP's free. Getting on the whitelist is also free for "all small- and medium websites and blogs". https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements If you're ok with blocking ads, I don't see how allowing companies to pay a fee to have them unblocked hurts anyone. If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky.
> If it feels icky then maybe ad blocking is icky.
Or perhaps the ads themselves are the icky part, and internet complacency in finding other business models is the problem
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#87Adblock is the #1 culprit for bugs on NewsBlur. I get at least one report a day where some functionality is broken (sharing stories, saving stories, loading a user's feed list, etc). First thing I do now is ask them to disable Adblock.
Doesn't even matter if they've told me if they have Adblock installed. I just assume if some random functionality is broken on my single-page site, it's Adblock's fault.
I suppose I should look for a way to identify if a user is using Adblock, though I bet they've made that as difficult as possible. And if I identify a user using Adblock, I should let them know it's the cause of any bugginess.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#88I've posted this on previous ad blocking threads, and I'll post it again because I think it's very relevant— > "Adblock without the plus" isn't the original Adblock (from which Adblock Plus was forked), it's an extension created for Google Chrome once Google Chrome enabled support for extensions. Very disingenuous name. It piggy-backed on the work already done for Adblock Plus (for Firefox). > Adblock Plus for Google…
But HTTPSB is only for Chrome? If so, meh.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
#89He surely just forgot to mention that Google allegedly payed 25 million € to Eyeo GmbH, the company behind Adblock Plus, in order to participate in the "acceptable ads" program, a "feature" which is turned on by default and allows users to "surf more comfortably". And that he is (or at least was) one of the directors. I'm most certain that there are people out there who would call this business model "blackmailing",…
> I'm most certain that there are people out there who would call this business model "blackmailing", but I could also be wrong.
They would be wrong. It's not a great practice, but it's certainly not blackmail.
Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?
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Presumably if Pagefair, in their role as curator, allows too many shitty ads under their wing then Adblock Plus will block Pagefair, and pretty much destroy their business. They do have an incentive.
As Pagefair pays Eyeo its would be easier to issue a notice of issue, citation, or reprimand, then it would to kill them and their revenue.
If Adblock Plus's users start noticing obtrusive ads, they will leave ABP and destroy all its power. That's a pretty clear incentive.