There seems to be several problems. Not entirely sexism. 1. Founder's wife asked Horvath out and gave her a lecture about who is the boss. Probably out of jealousy. 2. Founder's wife physically inanimate Horvath, making her unwelcome and scared. 3. Founder did not stop the wife and protect his wife. 4. Horvath was approached by a male co-worker and according to her her rejection had caused tension between her and tha…
Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit
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#352There seems to be several problems. Not entirely sexism. 1. Founder's wife asked Horvath out and gave her a lecture about who is the boss. Probably out of jealousy. 2. Founder's wife physically inanimate Horvath, making her unwelcome and scared. 3. Founder did not stop the wife and protect his wife. 4. Horvath was approached by a male co-worker and according to her her rejection had caused tension between her and tha…
If someone inanimated me, I would quite right then and there. Thats some freaky x-men shit.
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#353There seems to be several problems. Not entirely sexism. 1. Founder's wife asked Horvath out and gave her a lecture about who is the boss. Probably out of jealousy. 2. Founder's wife physically inanimate Horvath, making her unwelcome and scared. 3. Founder did not stop the wife and protect his wife. 4. Horvath was approached by a male co-worker and according to her her rejection had caused tension between her and tha…
To clarify for many of you, you don't need someone shouting "I HATE WOMEN" for sexism to be occurring. The sexism in this scenario is subtle and persistent, something that likely tainted all of the workplace interactions at github, allowing a female employee's problems at work to be continually ignored. This eventually built up to the issue most people are focusing on, a founders spouse being allowed to harass an emp…
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It's not what or whether they were watching, it's how they were watching. It's a judgement call but pretty easy to tell if a group is leering or just watching friends have fun.
Even more so, it is the sexual attractiveness of the guys who are watching.
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Actually people are 13. When it comes to social behavior adults are just tall children.
I tend to favour the term "Savage Infants" personally, but "Tall Children" is a winner too, I shall remember that one.
Recently, however, the smart ones have been shouting back "British or European?"
Thanks for tall children...
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I, as a male, try to avoid staring at another female because I fear someone like Horvath accuses me of sexism. This is, sadly, the best thing to do because you don't know who is going to take offense. PS: To avoid looking one-sided and narrow (which I believe I'm not) I really feel bad about this whole situation and the lady who had to go through that. Personally liked a github as a company.
And I, as a male, try not to stare at anybody because I'm not a fucking asshole.
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> creepily staring at an employee in the gym That's not what the article says: > The final straw for Horvath came when she saw men gawking at women who were hula-hooping at the office. [...] Two women, one of whom I work with and adore, and a friend of hers were hula hooping to some music. Emphasis on at the office . It sounds like they were making some kind of show. While I agree that the rest of the story sounds li…
If this commentor is to be believed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7408466 Then it was not only in the office, but in the office during a party to boot.
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I'd rather just have a "zero fuckwits rule" in hiring. It sounds like Github breached that rule, leading to this problem. You could possibly avoid all sexual harassment by having only men in the workplace, but if they were still fuckwits and assholes, you'd have other employment problems.
Spotting a fuckwit during a best-behaviour interview is difficult.
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You put those words in my mouth, buddy. To clarify, social ineptitude combined with a degree of self-assured narcissism, resulting in a total disregard for the opinions of other people which don't jive with the most "logical" worldview. It's possible to be socially introverted and still considerate to other people.
"You put those words in my mouth, buddy" To be fair, just a few comments up you said "I think you'll like this:" and then posted a link to a comic making fun of 'socially awkward', 'atheist', 'fedora wearers'.