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Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit
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socially inept Good to see we're staying classy. Next time you might like to work in a zinger about autism, neckbeards and/or fedora ownership.
You put those words in my mouth, buddy. To clarify, social ineptitude combined with a degree of self-assured narcissism, resulting in a total disregard for the opinions of other people which don't jive with the most "logical" worldview. It's possible to be socially introverted and still considerate to other people.
Like the considerate people who keep importing loser attitudes into computing, telling everyone else how to behave, etc.
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She didn't give any names, so I don't think it counts as "publicly shaming him".
I don't think that she should have been the one to suggest he seek professional help, either. The guy professed his love to her, refused to leave her house (it sounds like they were alone), and then went on to act passive-aggressively and sabotage her work. I wouldn't blame her one bit if she felt uncomfortable or even unsafe working around him.
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Nor in Australia, is HR your friend. I had a very similar situation to this, as a male, in a software development environment. Even down to the bullying and the silently deleted files and commits. The thing I learnt about HR is they are not professionals. They do not exist to perform the professional duties associated with Human Resources. They may tell you and themselves that, but they are the formalised face (at an…
I do agree that the bullies will be protected and promoted. Unfortunately the legal action doesn't really solve the problem. Usually the companies just find loopholes around whatever they were sued for an it is business as usual. For most companies once you get large enough the question is not if you will be sued, but when you will be sued. The incentives need to be changed to change the system.....which would mean a…
Your comment makes no sense to me. How would throwing out capitalism take sexual harassment with it?
Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit
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Yes, this person who can slander GitHub all over the twitterverse with the dreaded "sexist" label with no evidence is totally powerless. lol.
This is going to hurt Horvath more than it hurts GitHub. She's going to receive a torrent of abuse for speaking out like this, whether her version of events is accurate or not.
And yet, she initiated that chain of events. You should think more carefully about what the word "power" means.
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#226There seems to be several problems. Not entirely sexism. 1. Founder's wife asked Horvath out and gave her a lecture about who is the boss. Probably out of jealousy. 2. Founder's wife physically inanimate Horvath, making her unwelcome and scared. 3. Founder did not stop the wife and protect his wife. 4. Horvath was approached by a male co-worker and according to her her rejection had caused tension between her and tha…
I, as a male, try to avoid staring at another female because I fear someone like Horvath accuses me of sexism.
This is, sadly, the best thing to do because you don't know who is going to take offense.
PS: To avoid looking one-sided and narrow (which I believe I'm not) I really feel bad about this whole situation and the lady who had to go through that. Personally liked a github as a company.
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#227The bad actor in this version of the story seems to be the founder's wife. And the founder certainly dropped the ball by not keeping his wife in line. For whatever reason, the wife acted crazy, intimidating, and creepy toward Horvath. Why? Who knows? Maybe because of jealousy or concern that her husband was interested in this (admittedly reasonably attractive) female employee? The founder needed to do the professiona…
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is going to hurt Horvath more than it hurts GitHub. She's going to receive a torrent of abuse for speaking out like this, whether her version of events is accurate or not.
And yet, she initiated that chain of events. You should think more carefully about what the word "power" means.
Are you aware of how patronising this response is? If you want to make a comment about the nature of power, make it. Don't tell me to think more carefully.
I'm not sure precisely which event you're saying she initiated, but if you're talking about her quitting her job and then speaking out like this: you should think about why someone would put their reputation and livelihood on the line.
Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
socially inept Good to see we're staying classy. Next time you might like to work in a zinger about autism, neckbeards and/or fedora ownership.
You put those words in my mouth, buddy. To clarify, social ineptitude combined with a degree of self-assured narcissism, resulting in a total disregard for the opinions of other people which don't jive with the most "logical" worldview. It's possible to be socially introverted and still considerate to other people.
It's inconsiderate to other commenters to post a dramatic quit message, since it's effectively content free and massively generalising.
Re: Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism and Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit
#230The story is confirming my long held prejudice/bias. If a company/organization organizes women only activities, then there is something profoundly wrong in their relationship towards women.
The Passion Projects site says that attendance is usually 50% male/50% female.