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Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by hannesfostie »

mjibson wrote: post #121
Qworg wrote: post #71

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I would never say that EVE doesn't reward playing at any level. I'm just wired to do things bigger - and I have a hard time playing at a lower level in most anything. I would recommend getting into a good corp/alliance though - there's nothing that improves gameplay more than that.

Ok. I have an account with a month playtime from years ago. I want to join back up and get into a good corp. How do I find such a corp? I want to go play in fun battles and null sec.

hard to say, I'd say look through forum posts to see which corps stand out, or just go do the stuff you normally do and talk to people in local, talk to your targets (or killers), fellow miners, ... whatever it is. Join those you enjoy talking to and see where it goes.

Small corps are hard if you don't know them beforehand. It's easier to find a handful of really cool people you get along with in a bigger group.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by whatevsbro »

na85 wrote: post #153
lifeformed wrote: post #130

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Why wouldn't writing a better JS framework improve the world? Jquery helped a lot of people get into web development, got them jobs, inspired them to enjoy programming and maybe life itself, helped the economy, helped make websites exist that directly and indirectly help people, etc. There is no reason anyone should be ashamed of doing what they love (unless of course, it's genuinely shameful). Yes, some things are m…

>Why wouldn't writing a better JS framework improve the world? Jquery helped a lot of people get into web development, got them jobs, inspired them to enjoy programming and maybe life itself, helped the economy, helped make websites exist that directly and indirectly help people, etc. Oh please. This kind of smug self-congratulatory attitude is what makes me hate echo chambers like HN. You enjoy writing code on the s…

> But don't pretend that your competitor to Uber [..] makes you a humanitarian.

He didn't claim he was one. But you started out basically implicitly demanding that we all be humanitarians. It's fine to help people, but it's also fine to build web-apps for cat pictures. If you feel so strongly about humanitarian work, just go to Syria or where ever, and help people yourself.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by zaphar »

Raphmedia wrote: post #69
spoiler wrote: post #62

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I know, right! I can't even be bothered to play a game for 2 months consistently. The game I've played the longest is GW2, but that's only because I play it semi-socially and casually. Not to mention the very frequent update rate keeps me interested! EVE seems amazing, and I'm sure I'd love it (never bothered to download it for some reason), but I don't think I could provide that much commitment to a game.

And GW2 is free. That's also the only game I play, because I can play twice a month and I won't feel bad about wasting my money on monthly subscriptions. (I know there are ways to play EVE for free, but there is no way a casual player could make it.)

Guild Wars is my game as well. My wife and my kids all play it with me. It's a decent family gaming night :-)

We like forming camp stealing parties in WvW.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by talmand »

sanswork wrote: post #115
talmand wrote: post #112

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I wasn't supporting the notion that corporations have "hundreds" of titans sitting around waiting to be activated. I'm just saying that I would double or triple your number and I would be more likely to agree. The last report I saw suggested over 70 titans destroyed. You don't commit that many highly expensive ships to a battle unless you can replace them, or you are really really desperate to keep that system. Also,…

I'm getting the impression you might not play the game actively. With that in mind let me assure you that as both a player and a super capital pilot that yes they are used without easy ways to replace them regularly. Even if you can afford to replace them straight away build time cuts into that an no alliance can afford to have 70 titans sitting around waiting as replacements. The side that dropped sov in this has ha…

You're right, I'm not an active player. I'm likely referring to tactics that don't apply. I'm just going by the reports I've read so far.

I can see people sacrificing titans out of boredom, it's mostly wasted time unless they invested actual currency into the ship somehow. I seem to recall one of the massive battles lasted longer than normal simply because everybody was ready for a large battle more or less out of boredom.

Anyway, I'm more satisfied with this last statement than your previous as I was only saying that some of the larger corporations surely have a large number of titans sitting around waiting to be active. I wasn't saying they would have enough to replace 70 immediately, I was saying dozens which could be 24, 36, or 48. I say this simply because if you months of time on your hands and raking in serious resources on a large corporation level, why not spend it all on building the biggest ships in the game?

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Post by aaronem »

jff wrote: post #140
aaronem wrote: post #19

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EVE Online and Star Citizen both happen in space, but they're not a lot alike aside from that; the former is a point-and-click tactics 'n strategy simulator where a "skill" is something your character eventually levels up and becomes able to do whether you've been playing the game or not, and the latter is (will be) a first-person joystick-and-throttle space flight simulator in which things like combat and trading de…

Keep pouring money into that hole!

Have you some reason to believe that's what I'm doing, or do you just enjoy snark? I can't blame you in the latter case; so do I. But I'm curious whether you know, or think you know, something that might change my opinion of Star Citizen. (It's not too late to initiate a dispute on the initial $140 charge, should I feel it necessary to do so.)

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by sanswork »

talmand wrote: post #175
sanswork wrote: post #115

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I'm getting the impression you might not play the game actively. With that in mind let me assure you that as both a player and a super capital pilot that yes they are used without easy ways to replace them regularly. Even if you can afford to replace them straight away build time cuts into that an no alliance can afford to have 70 titans sitting around waiting as replacements. The side that dropped sov in this has ha…

You're right, I'm not an active player. I'm likely referring to tactics that don't apply. I'm just going by the reports I've read so far. I can see people sacrificing titans out of boredom, it's mostly wasted time unless they invested actual currency into the ship somehow. I seem to recall one of the massive battles lasted longer than normal simply because everybody was ready for a large battle more or less out of bo…

You're changing my words to fit your beliefs. I never said the large alliances have even dozens. Only one alliance is believed to have a decent stock pile of alliance available titans. And even thats just a rumour. You can say that this doesn't mesh with them using them if you want but the fact remains.

To answer you last question it's because it is a LOT of work to build them and not fun work either and it is extremely expensive to get into building them so the number of people that do it is limited and the people that do it tend to do it when there is orders for them and it'd be pretty well known if one entity was offering to buy none stop production.

PL is believed to have a decent cache(~20) the other alliances involved don't. I'd be amazed if the others had even one or two spare ones each, best case they convince a few inactive titan pilots to log on and give theirs to someone that lost one in the short term while they build a replacement for them.

>why not spend it all on building the biggest ships in the game?

Because only a handful of people can fly them and they are almost never useful. It's much better to spend your resources on smaller ships that everyone can use and get 2000 pilots out there not worried about dying.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by PopsiclePete »

na85 wrote: post #113
lifeformed wrote: post #90

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Yes, if instead of coding trivial web apps we all became doctors, the world would be a better place, right? Creativity and talent aren't fungible resources that you can just decide to apply to whatever is most noble. If you put a top level EVE player in charge of Occupy Wall Street instead, do you really think he'd have the passion and interest to do as good of a job as he does in EVE? People are good at what they li…

I know you're being facetious but the world actually would be a better place. Refugees from war torn regions need medical care, not yet another JavaScript framework.

So go and invent some new vaccines instead of whining about it on HN like a little bitch. Invent the vaccines, manufacture them, secure the patents and all that, and then distribute them to the needy. You, yourself, personally.

Once you've done all that, come back here and link to a blog where you explain how you did it, so that we may follow in your shiny, saintly path.

Until that moment, you're a whiny little bitch who thinks their opinion on what other people should do with their free time and money means more than diddly squat. (It doesn't).

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by ep103 »

pinaceae wrote: post #34

i'll be "that guy" and fuck, i'm a gamer. imagine that all this energy, time, effort and cash would be spent on some tangible issue. the revolution in ukraine, a movement for civil liberties. there are very creative minds at work within EVE, reading the mittani is amazing. those guys would run circles around the organisers of, say, occupy wall street. to put it dramatically and over the top - the world is burning and…

>those guys would run circles around the organizers of, say, occupy wall street

I'm a gamer, and I was an organizer of Occupy Wall Street. That you would even compare the difficulty between running a virtual guild in an online video game, to attempting to organize a real world dissident political movement from scratch, boggles my mind. I've done both, but you clearly don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by 9999 »

busterarm wrote: post #154

I myself also had to quit EVE after 7 years, but I had one of the best player experiences you can get in that game. Highlights: Being a member of Veto. Going to Iceland and meeting long-time friends (and meeting Mittens!). Making a best friend. Being present for the first ever Titan kill. Becoming among the richest players in the game without using T2 blueprints. Succeeding at ultra-high level market manipulation for…

It would be interesting to read more about what you did. In particular it would be interesting to hear the details on the 5 year long espionage plot. Have you written about that somewhere?
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