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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by ternaryoperator »

jskinner wrote: post #66
ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

Since February this year, Sublime HQ has been a 3 person company.

Good to hear. How many of those are developers?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by de90 »

Narretz wrote: post #96
de90 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's just a matter of what's deemed important. I posted a bug on the forums, got a reply, and within the next update it was fixed.

Yes, sometimes I think jps intentionally ignores bug reports that are not in the Technical support forum. ;) that said, ST lacks a coherent stratgey to collect and evaluate bug reports and feature requests. There's a technical support forum, but that can mean anything from "how do I do X" to "Here's a bug" to "I want the API to do this". It needs a bug report flow with clear rules, like you need to add the steps to r…

Agreed. I had searched for a couple minutes to make sure I was putting the bug in the right place when I reported it. And even then there was no great way to search that it wasn't a duplicate considering how easy it is for forum posts to collide on a search.

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Post by rogerbinns »

pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

Your editor does have a bearing on your skill as a developer. When I interview candidates, the question I ask is "what is your favourite editor?" I don't actually care (much) what the answer is, but I do care that the developer periodically examines the tools they use a lot, and see if they can improve their productivity.

Editors do make a difference in your productivity - that is why people have favourites and why they have flamewars. That productivity matters.

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Post by vertex-four »

nahname wrote: post #121
leeoniya wrote: post #115

the main reason i am not buying or using it is because he doesn't work off the Userecho page he set up, which in my opinion should be his priority. He adds stuff that he feels is good, but ignores real user's needs. http://sublimetext.userecho.com/ all the feature requests are simply mothballed for years, including some that are showstoppers for me.

As someone who uses sublime everyday let's go through that list... Syntax / Code folding - feature for dealing with bad code. Solution: write good code. We don't need additional cruft in the editor slowing it down. Terminal panel (specifically for windows) - Would actually be nice for windows users. I am not one. Probably why the console in sublime is so limited, supporting windows in this regard is terribly difficul…

Actually, code folding is implemented, at least for Python. Mouseover the line numbers. Not that anyone should be doing it, but at least it's there.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by nilkn »

sixothree wrote: post #198
tlrobinson wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it's possible some people just aren't wired like this? Or am I just not trying hard enough? I've tried to pick up Vim several times and never made it very far. But at least I know "i" and ":wq" now :)

Don't worry. I find vim completely dated, arcane, and esoteric. Sure, it can do almost 25% of the stuff sublime can do but every feature has it's own learning curve. If I want to select four lines of text in any text editor that isn't vim, I just hold down the shift key and use any of the cursor navigation available to me. Not so in vim. Upon leaving vim none of the key bindings are never used in any other program. T…

> Upon leaving vim none of the key bindings are never used in any other program.

That's actually not true at all. Lots of terminal programs have keybindings for stuff like hjkl. Even tig does. And if you're using git from the command line and haven't heard of tig, you need to look it up.

Even many roguelike games support vim keybindings for movement. Brogue is an example.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by nilkn »

pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

I think everyone should find a workflow that works for them, and I've found that what works for me is working almost exclusively from a terminal.

Combining vim and tmux with the basix Unix command line and a few other tools like ack, tig, etc., gives me an environment that I can't really replicate with desktop applications, at least not on OS X, which lacks a true tiling window manager (i.e., one which, unlike slate, spectacle, etc., tiles the windows for you automatically). I've considered a switch to Linux for xmonad, but I still love OS X overall and am more than happy with my terminal workflow.

I work with two 27-inch monitors, and I like to dedicate one entire monitor to a single full-screen terminal with tmux as the window manager.

Admittedly, this has its downsides. For instance, I feel hopeless trying to do serious coding on Windows.

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Post by steinnes »

tumblen wrote: post #186
magicarp wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in your position for about a year until bit the bullet and uninstalled Sublime Text from my machine forced myself to use vim exclusively. It was an arduous and painful 2 weeks, but it got better and paid off in the long run.

Why do you need to uninstall? I use Sumblime text in Vintage (VIM) mode and it's amazing!

Same here. I'm using Sublime now for larger tasks, as I like the plugins and code completion, but for smaller, more isolated things and remote work vim is still, and will be, my choice.
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