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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Awesome. I almost considered buying it. Almost.

I still can't find a good reason to switch from Vim.

Good. Vim is a great, extremely powerful tool. One of the things that I really couldn't stand about Sublime was that so many users were trying to make it more like Vim. I don't want to use Vim for my daily work. I want to use Sublime. Vim is free, if I wanted to use it for anything more that modifying conf files, I'd use it. But please, don't turn Sublime into Vim... we already have a GREAT Vim.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

#92

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That works if you are doing consulting on your own but not for full time employees.

It does in Australia. It's a work expense. Just because there are other options that are free it doesn't mean it's not deductible. That'd be like telling a carpenter they have to use a tree branch as a hammer. But I'm no tax expert in your region, so it might be worth investigating if you're not certain.

The thing is I need to do Itemized Deductions if I want to tax deduct that expense here in the US. The problem is that it many a times comes out less than the standard deduction.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Going public with the Beta doesn't bode well for the numerous small bugs and inconsistencies that have plagues sublime for longer than the closed Beta. Some also have been introduced with new features, but still remain unaddressed. It also probably means no new plugin Api functions and features, although many have been requested for a long time. I guess since ST is such a well-rounded product overall that these short…

Sublime once had genuinely amazing support. The solution to scaling that with the product's popularity has apparently been to drop it on the floor. Expect bug reports to go unanswered for months.

I think it's just a matter of what's deemed important. I posted a bug on the forums, got a reply, and within the next update it was fixed.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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It's a developer tool. I bill more than that per hour. Lots of people bill more than that per hour. If it saves you time or stress, it's easily worth $70.

If you are a developer billing that much per hour, then it is undoubtedly worth it. For hobbyist programmers and people just getting started, however, it's a bit more uncertain. It's the age old question of how to price a product that is of great value to professionals, but also useful for novices (think Photoshop and Excel). I think that ST2's approach of being hassleware that doesn't go overboard is a good system.

It's the same editor whether you pay to use it or not. The tiny hassle at the beginning of clicking "OK" is just to remind you to finally pay for it when you move from hobbyist to professional. :)

And if you work in a big company, who knows! They might already have a group license you can you.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Sublime is a great product with shitty community and plugins, unfortunately. It could be so great but there is no feedback, no word from Jon regarding the communities requests.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Sublime once had genuinely amazing support. The solution to scaling that with the product's popularity has apparently been to drop it on the floor. Expect bug reports to go unanswered for months.

I think it's just a matter of what's deemed important. I posted a bug on the forums, got a reply, and within the next update it was fixed.

Yes, sometimes I think jps intentionally ignores bug reports that are not in the Technical support forum. ;) that said, ST lacks a coherent stratgey to collect and evaluate bug reports and feature requests. There's a technical support forum, but that can mean anything from "how do I do X" to "Here's a bug" to "I want the API to do this". It needs a bug report flow with clear rules, like you need to add the steps to reproduce, and a status indicator such as acknowleged, wontfix, the option to reference duplicates etc. User Echo kind of works for feature requests, but it seems to be abandonded as well. There's now a community bug tracking project, but jps has been silent on that too. I know it's not easy to handle support, but there's a lot of room for improvement here.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Yep. Still debating if the $70 price is right.

It's a developer tool. I bill more than that per hour. Lots of people bill more than that per hour. If it saves you time or stress, it's easily worth $70.

You are right, but the problem is exactly that it's a developer tool, and most developers tools are $free these days, so it kinda sets the expectation of price for a developers tool. If Emacs, Vim, Eclipse, Visual Studio (Express) and many, many others IDEs and editors a free, it's pretty hard to justify paying for a developers tools. It's not that it's not worth it, it's just that the common expectation is that developers tools are free.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

On the other hand, TextMate 2 is under active development: https://github.com/textmate/textmate/commits/master

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

That makes me an editor whore.

Emacs is old, complex and beautifully configurable. Vim is elegant and fast until you see Vimscript. Sublime is modern and great of out-of-the-box, but developed by a very smart guy that won't talk to his users on the forums).

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

On the other hand, TextMate 2 is under active development: https://github.com/textmate/textmate/commits/master

And OS X only. Neither is a good long-term option, sadly.
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