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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by Silhouette »

frou_dh wrote: post #68
Narretz wrote: post #30

Going public with the Beta doesn't bode well for the numerous small bugs and inconsistencies that have plagues sublime for longer than the closed Beta. Some also have been introduced with new features, but still remain unaddressed. It also probably means no new plugin Api functions and features, although many have been requested for a long time. I guess since ST is such a well-rounded product overall that these short…

Sublime once had genuinely amazing support. The solution to scaling that with the product's popularity has apparently been to drop it on the floor. Expect bug reports to go unanswered for months.

It seems to have been a victim of its own success. In the run up to the final ST2 release, we saw a string of new releases showing often subtle but useful improvements (and breaking a couple of things irritatingly as well). After the ST2 release, that stream of improvements just seemed to dry up, and now it turns out a paid upgrade model is being used. I don't mind that for new features, but for obvious bugs, in a premium product (which any text editor that costs real money is, given the competition), that got-your-money-now attitude does grate. This remains true even if the amount of money itself is small and it was an easy decision to buy it in the first place (and would be for the upgrade, if I had any confidence it wouldn't go the same way, which I no longer do).

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by moneypenny »

I'm grateful to the TextMate delays and the high pricing of Sublime Text for making me decide that Vim would be a better investment in time and effort. I can't expect Sublime to be around in ten years, so why should I bother making the effort?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by jbrooksuk »

ralmeida wrote: post #56
chime wrote: post #18

Any idea if it has code folding/collapse? Native or via a plugin?

It already exists in ST2. Maybe you're missing the fact that you have to put your cursor over the gutter for the folding arrows to show?

You can however toggle this, so that they're always visible.

Put `"fade_fold_buttons": false` in to your user settings.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by Adirael »

robinduckett wrote: post #41
melling wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought it even though emacs is still my primary editor. $70 is a drop in the bucket. I keep all of my notes open in a couple different screens (grouped by project). It's really quick to navigate to buffers (Cmd-t) and search all buffers. I'm finally learning a little Python because that's how plugins are written. Sublime has pretty smart completion too. Anyone have an org mode? I'd at least like to make urls clicka…

The biggest bug for me is that it's $70 - Although I'm a professional developer, I'm still fairly underpaid (I don't live in London, San Fran, NY, etc.) and thus it's out of my price range when I can barely afford travel, rent and food.

Still, I don't think it's that much money. I bought TextMate, then moved to phpStorm (this one was almost 100€, they had a sale not too long ago) and I also got Coda 2.

I buy a lot of software, if a tool is useful it's going to pay for itself in no time.

I'm in Spain.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by timc3 »

robinduckett wrote: post #65
Raphmedia wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't the company you work for buy you a license?

Why should they?

To give you the tools to do your job? I think perhaps you should start looking for a position elsewhere. Bristol does have other employment opportunities.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by anu_gupta »

robinduckett wrote: post #41
melling wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought it even though emacs is still my primary editor. $70 is a drop in the bucket. I keep all of my notes open in a couple different screens (grouped by project). It's really quick to navigate to buffers (Cmd-t) and search all buffers. I'm finally learning a little Python because that's how plugins are written. Sublime has pretty smart completion too. Anyone have an org mode? I'd at least like to make urls clicka…

The biggest bug for me is that it's $70 - Although I'm a professional developer, I'm still fairly underpaid (I don't live in London, San Fran, NY, etc.) and thus it's out of my price range when I can barely afford travel, rent and food.

Not sure what your point is, apart from not being able to afford it.

Then again, not sure why, if you're really employed as a developer, your company isn't paying for your development tools. DId you have to buy your own laptop?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by bibinou »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #57
ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

> A high bus factor means that many developers would need to be removed before the project would necessarily fail. Don't you mean a low bus factor?

According to wikipedia " rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor> :

>The bus factor is the total number of key developers who would need to be incapacitated (as by getting hit by a bus/truck) to send the project into such disarray that it would not be able to proceed.

So, higher is better ? I was wondering too the other day and settled on "augmenting the bus factor", in a good way.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by Silhouette »

robinduckett wrote: post #64
noahc wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being underpaid isn't a function of being in a particular region (assuming your in America). Middle America Jr. Devs with little/no programming experience are getting started around $70K.

I'm in the UK, I've been working for about seven years, I'm on about that in Bristol (and have to commute for an hour to get here.) I must just not be as good as a Junior in middle america.

Software developers in the US tend to be paid much more than anywhere else in the world, and often don't realise this.

In the UK, a salaried senior software developer would typically make £45-60K before tax (currently around $70-90K US). Working for someone else as an employee, you'd expect to reach that level after maybe 5-8 years, but then stick there for the rest of your career. Obviously the rates can be higher with special circumstances and they are somewhat higher if you're working in London, but anything close to what is normal in the US would be a rare exception in the UK (and most other places outside the US).

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by davidw »

unicornporn wrote: post #13

First "Core feature" for version 3: Speed. I can't recall that I have ever felt that a text editor was "slow".

I started using Linux on a machine with a 386 and 4 megs (yes, megs) of ram. Emacs was, I must admit, a bit slow on it, so I used jed until I got a better computer.
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