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Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by Concours »

veidr wrote: post #259
Concours wrote: post #237

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I am the founder of http://www.feedsapi.org and this might be an option for what you are trying to achieve. It is not a typical rss reader but more a full text RSS to email service, this feature should allow you to read and organize your RSS news from any email client and any device, it syncs with all platforms as well. Like you already said, such a service can't be free but the pricing is fair and comes with a free…

That's actually very interesting! But, far too expensive for me. I would have to pay $348 per year to read the same stuff I read now for free with NetNewsWire + Google Reader. Even though I don't actually read 15,000 articles a month, I definitely download that many to browse through. Personally, I would pay maybe a tenth of that.

Well unfortunately, such a price structure wouldn't be sustainable for us

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Post by jasonngpt »

krzyk wrote: post #132
jacoblyles wrote: post #28

Feedly is an example of an app that is extremely over-designed in a counterintuitive way. It is a remarkable case of form over function. "There's a list of articles, one per line, stacked vertically on the screen. After you've scanned your eyes to the bottom of the screen, how do you see more? You scroll it up, right? Ha ha ha. No. You swipe right. Madness." Oh. THAT'S how you do it. I thought it was impossible to sc…

And more over it requries a browser plugin (at least for firefox) to even function, why? And most of the time it just doesn't work - keep displaying that it is updating (maybe it doesn't take proxy into account?)

I hated the browser plugin too. But I think they have a web-version now, cloud.feedly.com

I have a flaky experience using the cloud.feedly.com. Sometimes it logs in, sometimes it doesn't. Just tried and I am able to login. for now...

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Post by kolev »

rikf wrote: post #229
seanp2k2 wrote: post #172

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If Google were smart, they'd open-source Reader and let the people who love it maintain and run it (It's probably much too dependent on their architecture for this to actually be a viable option).

I dont think they are killing ready because of the cost to maintain it. I think its more likely a strategic move to push people onto plus.

Google surely realized they've made a mistake, but they are like the government - never admit they err.

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Post by kolev »

eli wrote: post #150
Semaphor wrote: post #117

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My favorite, Newsblur, has pretty much everything GReader had. And by now he even managed to do away with the performance problems.

You don't find it buggy? For example, right now it claims several of my feeds are 404 and it won't let me fix them -- I have to delete and re-add them.

It's super buggy! Dupes articles and it's happened twice when long reading sessions were lost without any indication of error - the "read" state of tens, maybe hundreds of articles were not updated. I've seen the code on GitHub in the past - it was a ball of pasta.

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Post by admbk »

jacoblyles wrote: post #89
snogglethorpe wrote: post #46

I don't really share most of jwz's specific complaints, but I've been trying to use feedly, and boy .... it's really hard to believe so many people are recommending this as a general Google reader replacement. Besides its somewhat quirky UI, the main problem I have with feedly is that it seems predicated on the assumption that you will more or less read through all articles, one by one, in order, and finish them. Tha…

Google reader had an amazing dedicated mobile phone app that shipped with Android on the Nexus 4. It was perfect .

Exactly. It is also great on a Galaxy Tab.

Do any of the alternatives to Reader have a good app for Android ?

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Post by VikingCoder »

gwern wrote: post #254
VikingCoder wrote: post #248

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People yowled at Google App Engine increasing its prices.

Yeah? Case in point, you see anyone still bitching about that in front page posts to HN?

"there were no blowbacks to Google"

That's a factually incorrect statement. I'm sorry, but people who make factual claims are supposed to care when they're proven wrong.

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Post by gwern »

VikingCoder wrote: post #267
gwern wrote: post #254

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Yeah? Case in point, you see anyone still bitching about that in front page posts to HN?

"there were no blowbacks to Google" That's a factually incorrect statement. I'm sorry, but people who make factual claims are supposed to care when they're proven wrong.

I am amused by your attempt to shame me into agreeing with you, but some complaining about price increases is not a 'blowback'. Dozens of new readers and business starting up and endless bad PR (I have Google Alerts set up, so I see the new articles all the time, and the Reader is still generating bad press especially now that the shutdown is nigh) - that is blowback.

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Post by jamesbritt »

1123581321 wrote: post #73
snogglethorpe wrote: post #46

I don't really share most of jwz's specific complaints, but I've been trying to use feedly, and boy .... it's really hard to believe so many people are recommending this as a general Google reader replacement. Besides its somewhat quirky UI, the main problem I have with feedly is that it seems predicated on the assumption that you will more or less read through all articles, one by one, in order, and finish them. Tha…

Yoleo has been wonderful for me. I've been recommending it to everybody.

I tried Yoleo and had it import my Reader feeds, but it never did. it imported some small percentage of them and stopped.

The current layout make it too hard for me to move quickly through a large number of items.

I appreciate the effort but even if it did manage to import my feeds the UI just doesn't work for me.

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Post by VikingCoder »

acdha wrote: post #179
VMG wrote: post #124

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The blowback on google charging for a formerly free service would have been a magnitude worse than them just shutting it down.

That's an unproven assertion which the torrent of people saying “I'd have paid for Reader” calls seriously into question.

It should be trivially easy to look at the Graveyard, and find products that Google cancelled, where someone else later produced a competing product - for pay - that has attracted comparable users.

http://pinterest.com/googlegraveyard/google-graveyard/

People say they would buy things, all the time.

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