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Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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post #114

We learned a lesson that you can't rely on free services like Reader because they likely will eventually be shut down. Reeder is now asking for $5 per month so that is can be sustainable, so isn't the solution just to pay the $5 per month rather than asking one of the free products to imitate what you get from a paid product? You will just be at square one again anyway since even if Feedly does implement all of these…

What's the source of that $5/month claim? It's not on Reeder's site or twitter - is there another place that's come out? Not calling your statement into question or anything, just very disappointed to find that out...

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite, Newsblur, has pretty much everything GReader had. And by now he even managed to do away with the performance problems.

Too bad it's ugly and has lots of ux-quirks.

Yeah, I finally tried out NewsBlur yesterday after waiting as long as possible to decide on a replacement. There's a lot going on there. I think I've more or less figured out what it's all for and how to navigate around, but one thing is still bugging me -- what's that orange triangle on the left of the feed area, that follows the cursor around unless you "lock" it, for?! Totally unexplained ux element.

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

#145
post #8

One thing the google reader apocalypse seems to have taught us is that everybody's sense of entitlement is way too damn high. Feedly is documented. Type "feedly keyboard shortcuts" or "feedly tutorial" into google and you'll get all kinds of good (and concise) information. The fact that you didn't try to find any documentation doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I installed the feedly extension and it proceeded to trash every page I viewed by inserting itself at the bottom. Even in plain Javascript files I was viewing

I used feedly for 5 minutes, saw that stupid little button, and quickly uninstalled. I refuse to use some that invasive.

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Google doesn't seem to realize that one of their most valuable assets is trust. And that trust has eroded a great deal in recent months.

It really is time to grow up.

They have a product where they can't make money and can't fit it into their corporate direction. Good companies eventually cancel projects like this. Yes, we had a great product for free for a long time. Now it's time for someone else to fill the vacuum.

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Since I am leading my efforts into a reading/translating/communicating toolkit I find this very interesting, and personally useful (I need people to share their opinions like that):

* There is no documentation

My code is not documented, then again I am using the principle idea behind __doc__: Code IS documentation, and I've decided to blend the difference between code, document, and even data.

* There is no desktop version

My road-map includes a core frame, which has Presentations for Terminal, GUI desktop, and webby version of it (html, css, js, ...)... um yeah... Presentations, Control, Model (model slice, inner model slice, perspectives, view-points): PCM (Present, Control, Model)

* There is no Next button!

The main web reader I plan to provide, has a Letterbox layout, with next: (chapter, page, etc.) prev: (...), bookmark-tags (alabala bla bla [: some name for the BM])

* + Sequential Layout-ing:

Instead of even touching the buttons or mouse, you let the "AI" helper (Wordy) to blurt it out on the terminal paragraph, by paragraph, sentence by sentence, word by word, with tempo and optional "accenting"... Just like a kid listening to his father telling stories. You have the option of speeding up the tempo, or simply push it forward

* +Convo-trees

Trees of Conversations (Documents outputed and printed)

This is highly wondorous tool which I still conceptualize with the following scenario: You are a Weed Farmer with A blog, mail, etc. You want to communicate with your prospective buyers, but you don't want cops in your clientele. Therefore, you decided to place a mail on the site, and only after an interview, you decide whether the seeker is a sincere buyer or a cop (or interviewer) under cover.

So you have those repetitive tedious interviews with common answers and such, and you WANT to automagicate the process a bit.

What if you put Wordy behind the mail-server and make it redirect things it can't respond to, to your advanced intellect? Nice? may be. Depends on Wordy.

... The rest of the arguments OP presents are technical hiccups rather than poor user interface design mal-techniques (choice of paradigms)

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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post #94
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

jwz's blog is't a product, doesn't exist to sell a product, or to sell jwz as a product -- which is why his ugly green color scheme is fantastic. His blog's color scheme also has no bearing on evaluating actual products' UX.

False, jwz is selling himself on this blog. He's addicted to the attention, very much like a heroin addict.

"addicted to attention like a heroin addict"

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

#149
post #68

I need a Reader replacement that lets me export the feeds data later if I want to. I could not find that in Feedly. I don't want to get locked in a service for the same reason. Any suggestions ?

Tiny Tiny RSS [1] but you need to host it yourself.

[1] http://tt-rss.org/redmine/projects/tt-rss/wiki

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The closest replacement is The Old Reader - unfortunately they seem to having problems with feed update speed (probably due to load)

My favorite, Newsblur, has pretty much everything GReader had. And by now he even managed to do away with the performance problems.

You don't find it buggy? For example, right now it claims several of my feeds are 404 and it won't let me fix them -- I have to delete and re-add them.
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