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Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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I don't understand the hate with the decision of Google shutting down the Reader. Apparently, the Reader users aren't worth that much.

> Apparently, the Reader users aren't worth that much.

How would Google know when it never tried to monetize them? (See above threads discussing this with quotes from people on the Reader team.)

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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I wonder how much money Google could've made if they just said "pay or leave" rather than just "leave" and/or spun off reader into some new startup.

I bet they could have made literally hundreds of thousands of dollars. Google will finally figure out how to be rich!

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Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Swipe to navigate is a terrible design antipattern. I can always tell when I'm reading a blog on blogspot because it'll dump me to the adjacent article when I'm scrolling or trying to zoom in on an image. I dumped chrome on ios because they didn't get it right either.

Hear hear. Although, I don't remember needing to swipe with chrome on iOS.

IIRC it's the way to switch between tabs

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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post #56

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Almost nobody uses feed readers, which is why Google shut down Reader in the first place. You guys are a small but INCREDIBLY vocal minority.

what kind of geek doesn't have EZRSS and a few other torrent feeds fed into Sickbeard or FlexGet for automatic television/movie/game downloading?

I would never participate in automatic torrenting; I am pretty discerning about what I watch.

Additionally, RSS feeds just seem pointless to me; I visit web sites when I want to consume information from them. I dislike the idea of turning my computer into a television.

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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post #56

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Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that someone's complaining about UI of the source when the stuff under discussion already cleans up things for you and makes it readable?

Almost nobody uses feed readers, which is why Google shut down Reader in the first place. You guys are a small but INCREDIBLY vocal minority.

"Almost nobody uses feed readers" - prove it. I'll read that as "I stopped using it, therefore how could anyone else possibly want to?"

"which is why Google shut down Reader in the first place" - nope, Google wants to stuff us all into their walled Google+ crap and feed us ads. Notice the lack of RSS feeds for updates.

"You guys are a small but INCREDIBLY vocal minority" - this is a discussion that involves Google's cack handed behaviour with Reader, what do you expect. If you don't use RSS then why the hell do you care, stay out of the discussion.

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post #176

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It really is time to grow up. They have a product where they can't make money and can't fit it into their corporate direction. Good companies eventually cancel projects like this. Yes, we had a great product for free for a long time. Now it's time for someone else to fill the vacuum.

Your apologia is begs the question of whether Google could make money or find a fit for it when they never even allowed the team to try: “‘There was so much data we had and so much information about the affinity readers had with certain content that we always felt there was monetization opportunity,’ he said. Dick Costolo (currently CEO of Twitter), who worked for Google at the time (having sold Google his company, F…

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Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

#227

Google doesn't seem to realize that one of their most valuable assets is trust. And that trust has eroded a great deal in recent months.

It really is time to grow up. They have a product where they can't make money and can't fit it into their corporate direction. Good companies eventually cancel projects like this. Yes, we had a great product for free for a long time. Now it's time for someone else to fill the vacuum.

In my experience, those who loudest scream "Grow up!" are the ones who most need to do it.

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We learned a lesson that you can't rely on free services like Reader because they likely will eventually be shut down. Reeder is now asking for $5 per month so that is can be sustainable, so isn't the solution just to pay the $5 per month rather than asking one of the free products to imitate what you get from a paid product? You will just be at square one again anyway since even if Feedly does implement all of these…

> We learned a lesson that you can't rely on free services like Reader because they likely will eventually be shut down. All Google services are likely to be shut down. Being paid or not doesn't seem to make nearly as big a difference as you seem to think; see my analysis of the topic: http://www.gwern.net/Google%20shutdowns

Your linked analysis does not seem to support the conclusion you make in the above post that "All Google services are likely to be shut down".

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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post #57

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> I leave thousands of things left unread, and yet google reader makes it quite easy to keep up to date with whatever I feel like reading at the moment, without getting bogged down by all the stuff I don't want to read. It lets me categorize stuff hierarchically, and then drill down to what I want to look at, and maintains unread counts for each level, easily visible all at once. It's easy to see what categories/subc…

If Google were smart, they'd open-source Reader and let the people who love it maintain and run it (It's probably much too dependent on their architecture for this to actually be a viable option).

I dont think they are killing ready because of the cost to maintain it. I think its more likely a strategic move to push people onto plus.

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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> Can I get a readable color scheme already? Yes. In your OWN blog. This one is retro styling for the intended audience, and we won't have it any other way. "Eye-burning"? Maybe lower your brightness? I have -3.00 diopters myopia and can read it just fine. Not to mention people worked for 15+ hours on green on black displays and you didn't see them complaining -- and that was with phosphor displays, with an electron…

Complain? We had options to change the intensity or use amber/black or white/black. No one in the day would have used intense green characters for a whole shift, it would have "burned" the CRT.

Er? There were metric-f'tons of green-phosphor terminals in use "back in the day", and I don't recall anybody ever adjusting them to reduce brightess... I'm not even sure if most them were even capable of easy adjustment.

E.g., the green model of the H19/Z19 (super popular), various IBM synchronous terminals (the ones I remember from the system/34 had a particularly saturated green phosphor), the later H29 (a very pleasant bright whitish-green), various cheapo Wyse models from the final days of dedicated terminals (though usually these were pretty adjustable), the original PC monochrome monitor (adjustable, but typically quite bright and saturated green), etc.

[Not that I actually like jwz's blog style, mind you...]

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