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Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by acadavid »

sergiotapia wrote: post #46

Doesn't matter to me in the slightest. I was a 360 owner this current gen (coming off of the PS2) but I will leave Microsoft come end of year. I don't want or need the vast majority of features they are offering. I live in Bolivia - I don't care about the NFL, can't watch Netflix or even stream Pandora. The PS4 has more features that I can use and want, is cheaper and doesn't come with bullshit DRM. Where's the choic…

You probably should check unblock-us.com

I'm in Colombian and that way i can watch Netflix, use Pandora and others.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by chc »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #86
chc wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was looking forward to buying a game and being able to play it completely offline without a disc. That was never going to happen. Did you mean "online"?

Yes it was. The console would only need to connect once every 24 hours. The rest of the time, it wouldn't give two shits about if it was connected or not.

I guess we have different definitions of "completely offline," with mine requiring that you not be online at all.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by polshaw »

alyx wrote: post #73
ebbv wrote: post #36

This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…

Stop spreading privacy FUD. Kinect can be controlled and disabled. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

Software disabling is little use when the issue only exists because of a lack of trust in the software (ie NSA co-operation).

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by amalcon »

mikelat wrote: post #85
alyx wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop spreading privacy FUD. Kinect can be controlled and disabled. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

This page says it's disabled by software - not by hardware. So it really depends on how much you trust the software and the people making it. The software is closed source and the people making it also happened to be the first ones to sign onto PRISM.

The aftermarket part to disable the Kinect without breaking warranty is not very expensive:

http://www.amazon.com/Post--3-Inches-Canary-Yellow-12-Pads/d...

Though there are a number of reasons I don't like the Xbox One, the Kinect isn't one of them.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by ulyssesgrant »

danielweber wrote: post #103
gfodor wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do I lend a game to my brother who lives on the other side of the U.S.? If you're going to make the argument that discs are "good enough" you sound a bit like people saying letters are "good enough" compared to e-mail. There are obvious advantages to digital content but it sounded like to get those advantages Microsoft decided it needed to add some "DRM-like" experiences. I'm not going to say it was the right tra…

You can still share your digital library, but they are limiting the number of friends you can do that with. And that requires call-ins to their servers, but that should be expected.

It says they are removing the family share plan, probably as a result of the always-online requirement disappearing

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by scott_s »

katbyte wrote: post #98
taopao wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your computer and phone are big balls of blind faith in software/firmware.

My computer doesn't have a webcam or mic plugged in all the time pointed at my living room.

My computer has a webcam and microphone pointed at me whenever I'm using it. Same for many, many people.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by m3mnoch »

mikelat wrote: post #85
alyx wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop spreading privacy FUD. Kinect can be controlled and disabled. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

This page says it's disabled by software - not by hardware. So it really depends on how much you trust the software and the people making it. The software is closed source and the people making it also happened to be the first ones to sign onto PRISM.

nah. you can totally disable it with hardware: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jpMACMgKo2A/UaaIiPp3IvI/AAAAAAAAAP...

m3mnoch.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by egypturnash »

gfodor wrote: post #56
corresation wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is talking specifically about disc-based games, which will return to operating as they always have. Good news for everyone. If you want to lend your game to a friend, give them your disc ("Lug" it around? For real?). Further when the inevitable system outage/hack attack happens, yay, those disc games still run. When Microsoft bans your Live account because your nephew trolled some people, yay, those disc games s…

How do I lend a game to my brother who lives on the other side of the U.S.? If you're going to make the argument that discs are "good enough" you sound a bit like people saying letters are "good enough" compared to e-mail. There are obvious advantages to digital content but it sounded like to get those advantages Microsoft decided it needed to add some "DRM-like" experiences. I'm not going to say it was the right tra…

Console gamers are used to having a physical totem of the game. When have you ever been able to easily loan a game to your brother who lives across the country?

Really, if you want to do that with a digitally-purchased game, you should just both be buying a copy, for a lot less than that disc would have cost. But MS wasn't willing to say "sorry, you're obsolete" to the game stores, so they weren't saying "hey now your games will cost half as much or even less if you buy them through us". Consumers have shown they don't care about all that DRM/licensing stuff on iOS if an expensive game is one that costs $10!

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by shock-value »

lizardking wrote: post #108
shock-value wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nerd outrage More like general consumer sentiment.

As of earlier today the Xbox One was the number 1 product on Amazon, two spots ahead of the PS4. I'd say that's a decent indicator of actual consumer sentiment.

The PS4 has been number one on that chart for most of the past week, despite being split up into multiple launch bundles. (I think yesterday was the first time the Xbox had reached number one since E3.) I've been checking that list, and it's my main evidence for the fact that consumers have actually been favoring Sony so far.
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