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Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by dualboot »

ebbv wrote: post #59
dualboot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I don't care if the Kinect is always connected if the thing isn't online at all. Also a $100 Discount doesn't have any traction with me regarding all of the bad will they created from the decades of pushing highly proprietary technologies into the market. Their terrible practices for me hit a crescendo when they made my life miserable via in-laws putting Sony rootkit audio-cd's into their PC. Nope. Not ge…

Sony has certainly done some heinous things in the past, but so has Microsoft. So, pick your poison.

I agree. Sony's actions have just been more insidious from my admittedly anecdotal perspective.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by taopao »

rocky1138 wrote: post #14
eridius wrote: post #2

The page is loading really slowly, so here's the text: Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience. For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in orde…

So much text for so little info. They should have just given us a TL;DR.

Hacker News has now become Reddit.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by alyx »

ebbv wrote: post #36

This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…

Stop spreading privacy FUD.

Kinect can be controlled and disabled.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by C1D »

proland wrote: post #58
sz4kerto wrote: post #51

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Really? It's not possible to turn on Kinect? Even if you unplug it? Even if you cover it? Even if you put it in a cupboard? Whoa, that must be a marvelous piece of hardware.

Console won't boot without it plugged in. It's also not clear if there will be a physical power button, meaning the only way to turn the damn thing on will be for Kinect to hear the phrase "Xbox On", meaning stuffing it in a cupboard won't be a particularly effective idea.

When I turn it off I'll probably disconnect the power and turn it back on when I want to play it. In fact I bet it would be easy to create a pi hack that let's me turn the power on and off with a button. I also doubt they won't have a button, what happens if my mic breaks?

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by pizza »

taopao wrote: post #72
rocky1138 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much text for so little info. They should have just given us a TL;DR.

Hacker News has now become Reddit.

> If your account is less than a year old, please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. (It's a common semi-noob illusion.)

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by shock-value »

gfodor wrote: post #56
corresation wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is talking specifically about disc-based games, which will return to operating as they always have. Good news for everyone. If you want to lend your game to a friend, give them your disc ("Lug" it around? For real?). Further when the inevitable system outage/hack attack happens, yay, those disc games still run. When Microsoft bans your Live account because your nephew trolled some people, yay, those disc games s…

How do I lend a game to my brother who lives on the other side of the U.S.? If you're going to make the argument that discs are "good enough" you sound a bit like people saying letters are "good enough" compared to e-mail. There are obvious advantages to digital content but it sounded like to get those advantages Microsoft decided it needed to add some "DRM-like" experiences. I'm not going to say it was the right tra…

> nerd outrage

More like general consumer sentiment.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by Erwin »

ebbv wrote: post #59
dualboot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I don't care if the Kinect is always connected if the thing isn't online at all. Also a $100 Discount doesn't have any traction with me regarding all of the bad will they created from the decades of pushing highly proprietary technologies into the market. Their terrible practices for me hit a crescendo when they made my life miserable via in-laws putting Sony rootkit audio-cd's into their PC. Nope. Not ge…

Sony has certainly done some heinous things in the past, but so has Microsoft. So, pick your poison.

What has Microsoft done to compete with the Sony rootkit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootki...

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by jamesaguilar »

Erwin wrote: post #77
ebbv wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sony has certainly done some heinous things in the past, but so has Microsoft. So, pick your poison.

What has Microsoft done to compete with the Sony rootkit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootki...

There was this antitrust case where Microsoft tried to illegally take ownership of the entire desktop computing ecosystem. It would have probably done more harm than any one rootkit. You may have heard of it.

Also, Sony-BMG is not the same company as Sony Computer Entertainment, and indeed no longer exists.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by mikelat »

gfodor wrote: post #7

I'm pretty sure short-sighted consumers/gamers shot themselves in the foot on this one, big time. I would have liked to have seen if Microsoft's move would have led to cheaper per game pricing like we see on PC. I guess we'll never know. I actually respected them for making a ballsy change like this that may have brought the console gaming industry into the Steam era. Also, it now looks like you can no longer share/l…

The only difference with retail and digital sales is obviously the lack of a physical copy but also cutting out the middleman (which is retail). It's still ultimately up to the publisher and distributor if they want to sell you cheap games, and the fact that consoles are closed systems they really don't have a reason to sell you cheap games.

They already sell games digitally on the current gen systems but choose not to do many decent sales. There isn't anything stopping them from giving you cheap games, they just don't want to - there's no reason for them to put in the DRM except to give themselves more control.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by CJefferson »

ebbv wrote: post #59
dualboot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I don't care if the Kinect is always connected if the thing isn't online at all. Also a $100 Discount doesn't have any traction with me regarding all of the bad will they created from the decades of pushing highly proprietary technologies into the market. Their terrible practices for me hit a crescendo when they made my life miserable via in-laws putting Sony rootkit audio-cd's into their PC. Nope. Not ge…

Sony has certainly done some heinous things in the past, but so has Microsoft. So, pick your poison.

Has Microsoft ever done anything like the removal of Linux from the PS3? That is what will stop me personally from buying another Sony console.
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