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BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
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Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
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> And consumers are not thinking in terms of encrypted sync, they're just thinking in terms of "I just want to do X, why is it so hard", and so I can't see this (very nice) solution really solving the problems that consumers have, that will make them prioritise security. I have a use case that is pretty common among my peer group and BT Sync has been the best solution I've been able to find. In a nutshell, I need to…
For the reasons that you've specified and others, I rolled my own very simple sync system based on Git. The biggest problem I personally have with Dropbbox et. al, is that none of the commercial solutions sync symbolic links opaquely . ("Opaque" syncing of symlinks means to sync the links themselves and not what the symlinks link to.) I use symlinks heavily and so I absolutely require this feature. Most of the commer…
> The biggest problem I personally have with Dropbbox et. al, is that none of the commercial solutions sync symbolic links opaquely
The tradeoff is to have all your stuff in one place, with is not a good thing most of the time IMO. A frequent problem I stumble on: there is a work folder where everything is already on svn/git, but I'd want to temporarily sync a few folders to dropbox only when needed, and get them out of dropbox when finished. As dropbox works now, to do this without using symlinks would be a PITA (I'd have to put all my files in the dropbox folder by default, and then play with the selective sync ? I am not even sure there is a way to do it without moving files around).
If dropbox had support for arbitrary multiple folder selection (but the the complexity would go way up?) I'd agree with your stance on symlink, but now this is more of a necessary evil.
Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
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Works globally, only ships within the US. That's awesome.
Looking at this, it looks like a 1-stop sharing solution. Im assuming that when a user shares files from this device, the connection is routed from Transporter's servers to the users device, allowing the downloader to directly copy the users file. I wonder how replication between 2 devices would work...
File transfers are peer to peer.
Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
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100Gb of Dropbox costs $10/month, BitTorrent Sync is free.
Dropbox has your stuff stored away in a fairly secure facility, while BitTorrent Sync just syncs between machines you've installed it on. That's worth something. Of course, you can just rent a cheap VPS somewhere and have it sync your BTS folders, but I think you'll be hard pressed to find a VPS with 100 GB storage for less than $10/month.
Maybe use s3fs to store one of your BTS copies on Amazon S3?
That'd cost you $9.50/month just for the storage, bandwidth and transfer costs are a bit hard to predict - storing your mostly-write-only archives are different from your mostly-read-only mp3 collection or your pirate-bay-sourced movie collection collection.
I'm quite excited by this - I've been planning-but-not-doing-anything-about a cluster of inexpensive processors (probably RaspberryPi's or TPLink WR703-Ns) running Tahoe/LAFS. If this busts through NATed internet connections like I suspect it will, I'll probably give up on that plan and just install a bunch of copies of this in various places.
Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
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> I also enjoy fantastic two way integration with photo management tools, with tagging syncing back. Which photo management tools do you use? I currently have around 45k photos (~200GB) and Picasa is sometimes just too slow. I am planning to get a DSLR soon, so total size is going to be expanding rapidly. What kind of tools would you suggest? I am on Windows mainly, so Mac-only is not an option. Thanks!
Try Adobe Lightroom [yes, our favorite whipping boy Adobe :)]. It's really really awesome as a photo management tool. IMHO. If you find it slow, try throwing in an SSD. Don't run it with less than 8 GB RAM.
I can second that. Lightroom is indeed an awesome tool. You should really check it out if you have large amounts of images to be organized and want to bulk-optimize them. It takes some dedication to get used to the workflow and the available set of tools (many!), but it's worth it. Also, Adobe dropped the price significantly some time ago, making this great product available for a bigger audience.
Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dropbox has your stuff stored away in a fairly secure facility, while BitTorrent Sync just syncs between machines you've installed it on. That's worth something. Of course, you can just rent a cheap VPS somewhere and have it sync your BTS folders, but I think you'll be hard pressed to find a VPS with 100 GB storage for less than $10/month.
Also, Dropbox is user friendly. I can recommend it to my family members, and they have a referral program to encourage me to do it. What does BitTorrent Sync do that rsync cannot? On the other side of the argument, I bet BitTorrent Sync will become as friendly as Dropbox, and perhaps third-party backup services will offer what Dropbox does. At that point, rsync's only advantage would be an open-source license.
"What does BitTorrent Sync do that rsync cannot?"
It seems to overcome NAT and dynamic addressing very well. All you need is to distribute the small shared secret once (for example, offline via USB, paper, or via the first letter of every headline in consecutive college newspaper publications), and you have the ability to transfer files (and do anything that can be boiled down to that; ex: chat, perform backups, publish videos of cats among your friends, distribute mostly static data between front-facing servers, etc...) without further coordination (for example, constantly renewing a DNS record, overcoming NAT, and keeping SSH or FTP permissions in order). Sure it may not be the best experience for all use-cases from a UX standpoint, but it is very general and, being serverless, it is better from other perspectives. I'm not boxing with you, only responding to your "?" and advocating for more such software.
Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
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> You are right: Dropbox's behavior with regard to symlinks is fundamentally wrong. What's even worse, is that no matter how hard I try, I am not able to convince most people of how wrong this is--even those who claim to be and should be computer savy. E.g., on support forums for other sync services, users are typically clamoring for Dropbox-style syncing of symlinks, and they will not be convinced otherwise, in spit…
Yeah but the real problem, the ones users are trying to solve is the limits on having to move everything into one sync folder. Transparent symlinks are the cheap fix for them so that they can keep their files where they want and still have them sync. The better solution would be to just allow any folder(s) to be synced but none of the major cloud sync providers seem to want to enable that.
Have a look at https://www.cubby.com/. It syncs existing folders you want to, and per synced folder you can decide to use their cloud or sync directly.
Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
#258Really nice, but the thing is... Dropbox has gone beyond just file sharing. One example: I used to use Flickr for photo sharing, but cameras got better, images got bigger, and I have a lot of photos. I moved from Flickr to Picasa as it could cope with the directories full of photos and I didn't have to manually upload them and Google's storage space was cheaper. Then I ran out of space... over 100GB of photos, where…
I know this may not be practical depending on the amount of space required, but you could probably run a very cheap EC2 image with a huge EBS volume attached for a year for cheaper than the bigger Dropbox offerings.
For example, a micro instance, with 500GB of EBS storage, with allowance for 1% data growth per daily snapshot (S3 backed), and 50GB of transfer per month will apparently cost $175.68.
The 500GB plan from Dropbox will cost you $499 .
I'm thinking, with enough data, Bittorrent Sync wins the pricing war, and I've been doing some testing on the client and it seems really resilient to data changing while syncing etc.
Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public
#259I see Dropbox mostly as a tool to send large files between computers that aren't both on at the same time:
It'd be nice to do that without an escrow, but I'm not sure that's really possible (without steep obligations on members as to hosting capacity and uptime).
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He had a spreadsheet with passwords and usernames of his client (they were a lot of them). Automation of Google's algorithm thought he was a hacker, they fixed it and he got his account back. You should have read the whole story ;-)
Hang on, that sounds like a "See, there is no problem" They only fixed it because he pulled teeth, tapped friends on staff at google and generally had to scream and shout. In no way was the trek he had to go through to fix an automation problem a good example of "Don't worry about it" Plus the fact that if it happens to you and you don't have the inside contacts you have no guarantee of getting it fixed.
I'm pretty sure many people have had this fixed without writing blog posts or having friends in google.
Just like many people have had their hotmail, paypal, facebook, itunes developer account etc. suspended for automatic detection of breach of TOS, and they've appealed and had their access returned.
This is not so much a google problem, as a reliance on 3rd parties to store your important documents, when everyone is warned (in tiny print) as to what may happen when they sign up.
I'm not excusing google's behavior, it's as bad as the rest of them, but they are playing by the rules we all agree to when we use their services.