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BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

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Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

#222

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I'm not sure what you're getting at with 1- I don't think any service ever can transfer files to a machine that isn't on. As soon as the co-worker shows up on Monday, the transfer will finish. As far as 2 is concerned though, that is not the case. Don't forget, it's built on top of BT. As each piece of the file gets transferred to other clients by the original machine, the other clients will be able to send those pie…

1-Actually Dropbox lets everyone do just that, I can access the shared folder via the dropbox website whenever I want, download files in there and even access the old or deleted versions..something I see very unlikely in this case for now

Dropbox has servers running all the time.

Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

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> "Another advantage is that there are no storage or transfer limits, so users can sync as many files as they want, for free." Yes, I believe that, because that's a completely solid business model for them.

Well they're not paying for storage or transfer; why does it have an impact on the company?

Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

#225

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Images that are 2048x2048 and below don't consume space on Google drive.

this was all well and good to me until I saw that Google shut down someones account for violation of TOS. Im already mulling over alternatives. This might be one of them.

He had a spreadsheet with passwords and usernames of his client (they were a lot of them).

Automation of Google's algorithm thought he was a hacker, they fixed it and he got his account back.

You should have read the whole story ;-)

Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

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> "Another advantage is that there are no storage or transfer limits, so users can sync as many files as they want, for free." Yes, I believe that, because that's a completely solid business model for them.

Well they're not paying for storage or transfer; why does it have an impact on the company?

Apparently, I'm stupid. But then the claim that the speed is comparable to Dropbox is fishy.

Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they're not paying for storage or transfer; why does it have an impact on the company?

Apparently, I'm stupid. But then the claim that the speed is comparable to Dropbox is fishy.

The reliability would probably suffer somewhat. I doubt I could use it at a lot of places that filter traditional p2p traffic.

Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

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I was in the alpha for this, but didn't use it. The single reason was that they had no solution for "two files modified while offline" at the time. This is just far too likely for me to remain an unaddressed issue. I don't know if it's been improved since then.

This is my biggest issue with BS also (having only started testing it today). It is definitely an issue, and it definitely nukes files, apparently permanently with no recourse.

I tested it out like this, on two machines (Mac Pro No. 5 and MacBook Pro No. 5, sorry for the confusingly similar names):

    [mason@MacBook-Pro-No-5 ~]$ cd BTSync/
    [mason@MacBook-Pro-No-5 BTSync]$ echo 'Hey man, this is draft one. ' > my_awesome_file.txt
Here I waited for it to sync and confirmed the same file was on both machines.

Then, in two terminal windows:

    [mason@Mac-Pro-No-5 BTSync]$ echo 'hello from Mac Pro at remote office' >> my_awesome_file.txt 

    [mason@MacBook-Pro-No-5 BTSync]$ echo 'hello again from local office' >> my_awesome_file.txt
I pressed Return as close to simultaneously as I could in each window, with the MacBook Pro No. 5 machine being second.

While it sync'd, I just had time to visually confirm that the contents of the two files were as expected, and different from each other.

MacBook Pro No. 5's file:

    Hey man, this is draft one. 
    hello again from local office
Mac Pro No. 5's file:

    Hey man, this is draft one. 
    hello from Mac Pro at remote office
A second later, the sync was complete. The file from Mac Pro No. 5 was completely gone, and both machines's my_awesome_file.txt now contained:

    Hey man, this is draft one. 
    hello again from local office
I then looked in the .SyncTrash dir on both machines, to see if the nuked file made it in there, but it did not.

Conclusion: Modifying a file on two machines will cause one of the conflicting versions to be annihilated permanently. Furthermore, this can happen nearly instantaneously, making it unlikely that any backup mechanism would be able to preserve the 'losing' version of the file.

Thoughts: I think this is a potentially serious problem and I hope they fix it. Still, to me personally, this is probably preferable to my main problems with Dropbox (slow speeds and utterly broken symlink behavior, as discussed elsewhere in this thread). Overall I am still pretty excited about this product.

Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

#229

Is this the first time that a product has been launched with the primary motivation of showing that a particular protocol is good for things other illegal filesharing? Up until now BitTorrent aficionados have tended to be forced back to the "I use it for Linux distros" when defending the protocol against ISPs and businesses looking to shape or block BT traffic. If this takes off, then the "its only used for nefarious…

Facebook uses bittorrent for deploying new versions of the site to machines in their data centers.

Re: BitTorrent’s Secure Dropbox Alternative Goes Public

#230

So now you have in place all the bits you need for a "members only" netnews feed, someone should go dig up the code and create a 'news' sync'd document. If you played your cards right you could use off the shelf news readers that look into a local repo of the news. With just a tiny bit of crypto code you could add a repudiation feature (keys signed by the secret vs the secret itself) and control access to both indivi…

Just to make the connection for others, you are describing something that can be used for chat AND binaries. As ugly a hack as it might be, (speaking to the choir, I know) there is tremendous value in simply being able to move messages (in this case, as simple files), between buddies without needing an "account" with a "service" (of the type that motivates people to excessively use "quotes").
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