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Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by loceng »

drharris wrote: post #75
chime wrote: post #25

Wow, it's like everything that I used to fear about the dating world put into one shiny app. Had this been out years ago when I was single, it would've definitely given me a lot of anxiety. Having been happily married for 5 years, all I can say to single folks is that if someone actively rates people on apps/sites like this, they are most likely not the kind of people you want to be with in the long run. As for the s…

Indeed. This would become the first question I asked a woman when trying to date. If she's childish enough to use something like this, I'd have no problem saying sayonara. There should be some expectation of maturity and general couth in any relationship.

Ask them if they use it?

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by 9392732 »

king_jester wrote: post #137
nawitus wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Not really. Men have had more freedom but less security. Just because you personally like your gender role (as it seems), that doesn't mean other men agree (or agreed in the past). Sure, men were allowed to be employees and women cared for the children at home (though reality was actually a lot more complex than that, but we can accept this c…

> Men have had more freedom but less security. This isn't true no matter how you slice it. Men had more economic security because they could work, whereas most women could not. Men have bodily security in ways women do not, esp. in regards to sexual assault and domestic violence. > men had to work or they wouldn't find a women to marry I think you have this backwards. Men didn't have to marry. However, since women at…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8803019/Young-women-n...

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by visarga »

wpietri wrote: post #27
shanelja wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem in this case is that in the same way women are most often the recipients of sexual discrimination, men are most often the recipient of being decried as sexual discriminators. It's so easy to look down on someone identifying as male as being discriminant but when the opposite is true, the male point of view is often ignored. Simply put, we are expected to man up, whereas women are expected to stand up.

I don't think it's quite as dramatic as you say. But personally I'm ok with it. Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Owning property. Voting. Higher education. Being allowed to practice a profession. Being favored by marriage laws. Being favored by social biases. Like Peter Parker and Voltaire say, "With great power comes great responsibility." Having received a substantial boost…

>Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Owning property. Voting.

You are referring to rich men, that elusive 1%. Average men have traditionally gotten the worst/riskiest jobs such as soldier and physical labourer. While the top 1% do get these advantages, the bottom 99% are maybe worse off than women.

Also, the "men had it good for centuries, it's women's turn now" doesn't hold. I am not those men. I was not present then and I resent having to pay for it. Should a child have to pay for the sins of 10 generations ago?

What counts for us is here and now. What passed, passed. It was not our doing.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by lopatin »

antr wrote: post #11

In recent times I've gotten the impression that their is a double standard going on regarding certain (not all) services and events that are only targeted to women. If this had been an app for men rating and alerting them about certain women all hell would of broke loose.

This comes pretty close though. http://www.pikinis.com

An iPhone app that finds bikini photos of your Facebook friends

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by neya »

yarrel wrote: post #120
neya wrote: post #69

Where are all the feminists now? This is the perfect example of double-standards implied by women. Imagine an alternative scenario where men could rate their female counterparts on the basis of their 'assets' as defined by some vague methodology. Imagine how much fire under men would be, with ALL men being broadly labelled as sexists because this app was targeted at men. I am seriously asking - Where are all the femi…

The effects of male and female versions of this application would not be the same. Different subjects, in various senses of the word. And you don't have to imagine that alternative scenario. It's how men generally treat women.

>It's how men generally treat women.

Congratulations, you've now been promoted to sexism level - infinity.

What you said above is sexism by itself. You are labeling an entire gender of species for what a percentage of species is accused of doing.

I'm disgusted by people like you who favor one gender over the other and my comment exactly addresses people like you!

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by loceng »

jhull wrote: post #215
loceng wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about a girl who is acquaintances with a gossip girl who uses the app and searches for guy's they're dating, and lets them know about whatever is mentioned on there?

I don't get why everyone is so paranoid about this. What are people trying to hide?

It has nothing about hiding anything, it has to do with people lying or telling "half-truths" (being dishonest) / stories skewed by anger, etc.. Many people are very sensitive and influenced people are by small / short stories whether they are even slightly negative or positive in nature.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by visarga »

Steuard wrote: post #186
king_jester wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Men have had more freedom but less security. This isn't true no matter how you slice it. Men had more economic security because they could work, whereas most women could not. Men have bodily security in ways women do not, esp. in regards to sexual assault and domestic violence. > men had to work or they wouldn't find a women to marry I think you have this backwards. Men didn't have to marry. However, since women at…

Kudos to you for taking the time to give solid responses point by point like this. Thanks for having the patience to do it.

If only they were more sensible responses.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by gavanwoolery »

chime wrote: post #25

Wow, it's like everything that I used to fear about the dating world put into one shiny app. Had this been out years ago when I was single, it would've definitely given me a lot of anxiety. Having been happily married for 5 years, all I can say to single folks is that if someone actively rates people on apps/sites like this, they are most likely not the kind of people you want to be with in the long run. As for the s…

I don't really have much to hide in terms of being a "bad" guy, but I will openly admit I have several minor forms of neurosis. I could see several guys being needlessly embarrassed by an app like this. What I choose to share on the interent is one thing, what others choose to share is a bit different.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by charlieok »

Hmm, now I kinda want to use the app to see if/when anything gets posted about me. But I don't want to help this become more of a thing. And I sure as hell don't want to give it access to my Facebook account.

Edit: saw the “no boys allowed” clause. Great. So I guess using it would require a fake Facebook account?

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Post by NathanKP »

chime wrote: post #25

Wow, it's like everything that I used to fear about the dating world put into one shiny app. Had this been out years ago when I was single, it would've definitely given me a lot of anxiety. Having been happily married for 5 years, all I can say to single folks is that if someone actively rates people on apps/sites like this, they are most likely not the kind of people you want to be with in the long run. As for the s…

Exactly. As offensive, shallow, and demeaning as Lulu might be it really isn't anything new. Trashy people of both sexes have used Facebook for gossipy purposes such as this for years. By now we should all have learned how to prune our relationship tree and unfriend, avoid, and block people who do this sort of thing. Anyone who would use a site like Lulu is not worthy to be a friend, much less a significant other.
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