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Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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They're here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/02/07/lulu_app_for... and here: http://jezebel.com/5982867/the-creepy-new-yelp-for-boys-and-... Do you not know how to use google?

I think the OP is asking where the "shitstorm" is.

Exactly. Where's the twitter hashhtags and the feminism organizations[1] jumping around with 'yaay! we gotta chance to make this a shitstorm!'[2]?

[1] http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/01/ces-booth-babes...

[2] http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/20/playhaven-developer-fired-...

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

#182

I used to be unhappy about this app until I found an SQL injection vulnerability that allowed me to log in and access the accounts of my previous dates by only needing to know their email addresses. This meant I was able to manipulate the ratings and comments people had made about me. Now I like the app :) Thanks Lulu!

As the former CTO of that company, I really doubt this. When I was there, the app was built on Django, and I left some pretty competent people behind, so I'm quite sure they wouldn't have made a mistake so rudimentary. However, I don't know what happened after I left, so there might have been some dubious decisions.

Why did you leave ?

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

#183

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Not to mention, female privilege lets them call men "creepers" or "perverts" without question. I've pressed female friends about this and they just answer with "I didnt like the look he gave me" or "we just didnt click." So instead of understanding that most people are not compatible, we're now building a db to slander them based on purely emotional reasoning? If women are using this then it says a lot about the woma…

It's like a bait for the bad ones. Now, if only you could find out which people you knew used the app...

There could be an app for that.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Write a polar opposite. Push it through the same channels. If someone has it taken down, cry "sexism!" and demand the same for "Lulu" (an idiotic name, anyway). UPDATE: Or perhaps not. After looking at the web site, it seems that this service, and a bad review of my person, is precisely the thing to repel exactly the kind of women I've never wanted to have anything common with.

Would it be possible to sign up, scrape all the data then publish it anonymously?

Well, there's an android version. Someone just needs to hack at it with a Java decompiler and find the internal API calls.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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Ah, so apparently guys are still good enough to hire. Interesting. Care to share your experiences on what it was like to work there?

> so apparently guys are still good enough to hire. Interesting. I re-read the parent, and nowhere does it say nor imply that the CTO nor the people he hired were male. For all that we know, the site might be built by bimbos scratching one of their own itches. I wouldn't bet on it, of course, but I'm amazed to see that prejudices are so deeply ingrained that: * you read what was absolutely not written; * nobody notic…

His username is "StavrosK", and his full name, Stavros Korokithakis is in his profile. If you weren't familiar with the name Stavros and didn't know the gender, you could google it and the first link would take you to his website which shows his photo.

I don't see the 'deeply ingrained prejudice' here.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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>Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Not really. Men have had more freedom but less security. Just because you personally like your gender role (as it seems), that doesn't mean other men agree (or agreed in the past). Sure, men were allowed to be employees and women cared for the children at home (though reality was actually a lot more complex than that, but we can accept this c…

> Men have had more freedom but less security. This isn't true no matter how you slice it. Men had more economic security because they could work, whereas most women could not. Men have bodily security in ways women do not, esp. in regards to sexual assault and domestic violence. > men had to work or they wouldn't find a women to marry I think you have this backwards. Men didn't have to marry. However, since women at…

Kudos to you for taking the time to give solid responses point by point like this. Thanks for having the patience to do it.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

#187

I bet it's just a matter of time before they piss off the wrong person, get hacked or DDoSed out of existence. And I sincerely hope that the bitch who owns the company never succeeds at another product again.

Kind of like when Mark Zuckerberg made Facemash to rank female undergrads, and then never succeeded at anything after that?

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

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You're not thinking like an entrepreneur. That just means that prison rape victims are an untapped* market. *badoom, pish!

I find it absolutely despicable to make light of violent abuse, including sexual abuse, in prison. We should be doing all we can to make our prisons safer for everyone. The fact that many people think it is OK to make and laugh at prison rape jokes sickens me. What would you think if I made rape jokes about your 90 year old grandma? Or your ten year old son? Or your wife? If that is not ok, neither is prison rape of…

You can certainly feel the way you want to, but sticks and stones. Jokes make light of plenty of despicable things. That's the point of a joke: to make light of something.

A joke is a joke. Specifically naming someone is not a joke. It is personal and implies a thinly veiled threat. It's not apples to apples at all unless you are the personification of the concept of prison rape.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

#189

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What are you talking about? I see at least a few stories per week on sexism in the top 10. Given that this place is more technology/startup-related than "let's talk about society", that's a pretty good frequency for just one of many valid social causes.

Next time you see a story about sexism against women (redundant but needs the clarification here anyway), watch its movement. Yeah, it may get up in the top for a bit, but you can watch stories that are older with fewer points and comments move up above it. Happens every time.

I've seen this effect in other "heated" discussions, and I wonder if it's the effect of moderation. Primarily, what happens to a thread as the percentage of moderated messages increases? Is that metric involved in the positioning? I could see a topic like sexism (or emacs v. vi) getting an inordinate amount of moderation, and thus might be flagged more often, moving it down the list. Maybe that has nothing to do with it, but I've seen this effect before.

Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

#190

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As the former CTO of that company, I really doubt this. When I was there, the app was built on Django, and I left some pretty competent people behind, so I'm quite sure they wouldn't have made a mistake so rudimentary. However, I don't know what happened after I left, so there might have been some dubious decisions.

Why did you leave ?

I was working remotely and they wanted to concentrate the team, but I didn't want to move away.
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