Weird that /r/MensRights made it to the front page this morning.
Lulu: An App No One Should Accept
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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Not really. Men have had more freedom but less security. Just because you personally like your gender role (as it seems), that doesn't mean other men agree (or agreed in the past). Sure, men were allowed to be employees and women cared for the children at home (though reality was actually a lot more complex than that, but we can accept this c…
You've made a lot of soup out of a small amount of meat. Some quick replies to clear up misunderstandings: I agree that patriarchy is bad for men too. I disagree that it was equally bad for both genders. I disagree that we have reached balance. By "manning up", I don't mean reinforcing gender roles or maintaining gender inequality. I mean that men should, as the relatively privileged parties, not be whiny at either t…
>...men should, as the relatively privileged parties, not be whiny at either the shift toward balance or the small anti-male inequities that crop up temporarily along the road to equity.
Translated from feminist rhetoric: Men have no right to complain about discrimination against them.
shanelja and nawitus, I think abundance of people with similar views to wpietri highlights how real your points actually are.
Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
But, no sexist gossip.
You're not thinking like an entrepreneur. That just means that prison rape victims are an untapped* market. *badoom, pish!
I find it absolutely despicable to make light of violent abuse, including sexual abuse, in prison. We should be doing all we can to make our prisons safer for everyone.
The fact that many people think it is OK to make and laugh at prison rape jokes sickens me. What would you think if I made rape jokes about your 90 year old grandma? Or your ten year old son? Or your wife? If that is not ok, neither is prison rape of adult men.
I am appalled to realize many people think prison rape is part and parcel of the "prison experience". Should rape be used as a deterrent to unwanted behavior? Where do we stop? Will you be ok with teachers turning a blind eye on students raping other students in detention for not doing their homework or for misbehaving in the classroom? Answer me.
Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept
#144Some good points made, but in this instance I think voice and perspective matter, and I'd greatly prefer to see a piece like this written by a woman. A man's voice just does nothing for me in this instance.
We could have the "words vs. words+voice" debate, but let's just skip it because voice matters.
Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it's quite as dramatic as you say. But personally I'm ok with it. Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Owning property. Voting. Higher education. Being allowed to practice a profession. Being favored by marriage laws. Being favored by social biases. Like Peter Parker and Voltaire say, "With great power comes great responsibility." Having received a substantial boost…
That is the worst way to go about this because it DOESN'T ACTUALLY FIX THE PROBLEM. It just makes it worse. Particularly because you are punishing people, men, who have never participated in the subjugation of women. This whole counter racism, counter sexism thing is just making things worst. It is basically just shifting the balance. What does that do for actually fixing the problem? Not a damn thing. Your attitude…
> Particularly because you are punishing people, men, who have never participated in the subjugation of women.
This is impossible, all men have and do participate in the subjugation of women so as systemic sexism exists.
Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept
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#147I can't wait to see this buried beneath older stories with fewer points and comments, the way every story on sexism gets buried here. Oh wait this is about how awful women are to men. Never mind.
Are... are you serious? Or is it just trolling? I'm not an obsessive HN reader but I see sexism stories show up at the top of the HN list all the time. To the point that I've taken it as one of the odd HN cultural quirks, that you all like to discuss it obsessively. Claiming they get "buried" is contrary to all evidence I've seen, though I guess if you have statistics I'm willing to be proven wrong.
Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have Facebook account myself, but it's related to Lulu app and onlulu (according to the faq). Apparently, guys can see what girls say about them.
So you sign in with your FB account, they pull in your data and put it into their app db so ladies can find you easier? Very ... smart. /edit: Oh, their privacy disclaimer states that they will also pull your friends' data into their DB.
I don't think the main goal is to help people. Lulu get personal datas from girls (mobile app, onlulu) and from guys (luludude) with this system and probably make money with it. Helping ladies and guys is a "secondary" activity.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Not really. Men have had more freedom but less security. Just because you personally like your gender role (as it seems), that doesn't mean other men agree (or agreed in the past). Sure, men were allowed to be employees and women cared for the children at home (though reality was actually a lot more complex than that, but we can accept this c…
> Men have had more freedom but less security. This isn't true no matter how you slice it. Men had more economic security because they could work, whereas most women could not. Men have bodily security in ways women do not, esp. in regards to sexual assault and domestic violence. > men had to work or they wouldn't find a women to marry I think you have this backwards. Men didn't have to marry. However, since women at…
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Re: Lulu: An App No One Should Accept
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Men have been getting the good end of sexual discrimination for centuries. Not really. Men have had more freedom but less security. Just because you personally like your gender role (as it seems), that doesn't mean other men agree (or agreed in the past). Sure, men were allowed to be employees and women cared for the children at home (though reality was actually a lot more complex than that, but we can accept this c…
You've made a lot of soup out of a small amount of meat. Some quick replies to clear up misunderstandings: I agree that patriarchy is bad for men too. I disagree that it was equally bad for both genders. I disagree that we have reached balance. By "manning up", I don't mean reinforcing gender roles or maintaining gender inequality. I mean that men should, as the relatively privileged parties, not be whiny at either t…
Not getting upset at inequalities means accepting them. This is the road to not getting rid of them.