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Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by josephg »

xbmcuser wrote: post #70
tombert wrote: post #45

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> I strongly dislike CUDA. Once you have allowed that proprietary cr*p Genuine question...why not just type "crap"? It's not even that much of a curse, but I've never really understood the point of self-censorship. If you don't want to curse then you could just use a non-curse word.

* is used to give emphasis and show that they are using the word as curse word rather just calling it bad

It doesn't read as emphasis to me. It reads like the person is trying hard not to curse, and they think "crap" is a curse word. It's a little bit adorable, like I'm reading a comment from an obedient child.

Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by josephg »

worik wrote: post #128
fg137 wrote: post #28

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> Once you have allowed that proprietary cr*p into your C++ codebase People have been doing that all the time for every kind of codebase. It's just part of the business. I don't see how it's worth having any emotions or opinions about it. Seems like you are wasting your energy. Are win32 APIs proprietary? So you decide to use them, use a wrapper/UI framework, or don't develop for Windows. Easy choice. Developing for…

> Are win32 APIs proprietary? Yes. And crap. Not in my code bases.

If you're going to make apps in windows, you need to call their proprietary API somehow. Maybe you do it via a wrapper library, or via electron or something. But that's the same thing, just with more indirection.

Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by meowface »

karim79 wrote: post #108
freeopinion wrote: post #101

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Do you have the stomach to walk into a high school in the USA these days? Teachers use AI to generate assignments. Students feed the assignments to AI and submit the responses. Teachers feed the student submissions to an AI for grading.

Please tell me this is not true.

It's true of most work in many and soon most white collar jobs, too. Claude writes some dense useless thing, everyone else uses Claude to summarize and write a reply to the thing. The Claude-submitted PRs get automatically reviewed and commented on by a GitHub Claude review bot. The programmer asks Claude to check out Claude's review comments to Claude. Claude pushes a commit to the branch and writes a comment. The Claude review bot reviews the commit and leaves a comment. The human [...].

My hot take is that it's not really that terrible in the long run for work since I think LLMs will probably be nearly or actually AGI and better white collar workers than most humans within 5 years of today. But it is very funny and surreal in the meantime.

It is definitely bad for school, though. Kids IMO should actually be encouraged to use LLMs but not in or for class work outside of an AI best practices class. Probably stop giving them homework (90% will always try to find a way to make AI do it) and have them solve problems in class hours with no electronics so that they're forced to not defer learning. This will become even more important once we have AGI.

Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by karim79 »

Orochikaku wrote: post #118
karim79 wrote: post #108

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Please tell me this is not true.

This is true even at the undergraduate level unfortunately…

Then here we are. AI apocalypse. Something of note. I've started to pay more attention to canned goods. Soups with lentils and so forth.

Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by anon291 »

jacobgorm wrote: post #12

I strongly dislike CUDA. Once you have allowed that proprietary cr*p into your C++ codebase, it is very hard to get rid, and you end up with code that is either tied to a single vendor or an #ifdef hell, probably both. The best way to program GPUs is face up to the reality that they are not the same machine as the CPU, write your kernels in separate files, and launch them manually, like in Metal, OpenCL, and D3D12, e…

? I find it hard to see the issue here. Just put it in a separate file and call it?

Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by rkharsan64 »

keybrd-intrrpt wrote: post #49
jchw wrote: post #42

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Sure, but even Anthropic doesn't appear to use Claude for blog posts. (I don't think anyone should. The prose stinks.)

Anthropic _absolutely_ does They are just better at hiding it or configuring Claude. I have several skills that reformat text to remove AI-speak tells.

According to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49417480, Anthropic hires writers who do not use LLMs, and reading their updates I also feel that they don't use LLMs for communication.

Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by upboundspiral »

freeopinion wrote: post #101
karim79 wrote: post #64

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What are we for, I ask? What the hell are we now. Chatters to LLMs now? Is this our future? It really is starting to feel like it now.

Do you have the stomach to walk into a high school in the USA these days? Teachers use AI to generate assignments. Students feed the assignments to AI and submit the responses. Teachers feed the student submissions to an AI for grading.

I know many teachers who actually have respect for the profession, themselves, and the students. Thankfully that means they don't do this.

Whether this is a widespread macro trend is another issue, and would be terryfying.

If true, however, it would reflect on the values of the organization: we have spent decades underpaying teachers, and doing a poor job of pretecting schools from frivoluos lawsuits. Add into that, districts have thrown money into new buildings, have been suckered by Big Tech to adopt their policies (common core was pushed by Big Tech and has been a distaster as well as computers in classrooms). As a nation (the USA) we can't get our act together for a rigorous national exam, etc etc.

Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by brainless »

LarsDu88 wrote: post #9

In this age of LLM written everything which has softly killed my motivation for learning Rust somewhat, this has revived my interest if not only for the fact the LLMs haven't yet been trained on this yet!

I was learning Rust slowly when the LLM enabled coding became good enough. I switched from learning to full on building with Rust. I still learn high level concepts as needed but I will not be able to write Rust on my own at all.

And that sounds scary but the way I got over the fear is by realizing there are many things that I do very well but I do not know their internals very well. Driving is an example. I barely understand what the steering wheel, clutch or brake pedals do. I have driven over 130,000 Kms and I will perhaps drive more than double that in the next many years.

I have been building software since PHP/Drupal days. Got into AWS S3 as a beta user. Adopted Memcached (and MQ) in 2008 out of necessity. Then Python/Django for 10 years. Then Rust. And tons of JS/TS. I owe a lot to my curiosity. I believe we can keep learning what we need and still delegate most of programming to agents.

Re: Nvidia announces native GPU programming in Rust

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Post by jchw »

saghm wrote: post #125
jchw wrote: post #51

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Prove it.

I don't feel like either one of you really has a strong claim. "Doesn't appear to" is subjective, and of course it's impossible to prove one way or another.

You're simplifying the exchange a little too much. I said:

> Anthropic doesn't appear to use Claude for blog posts

My claim is literally the lack of evidence, which, yes, can't prove anything. This claim can be contested easily by showing evidence that they in fact, do appear to be using Claude to write prose in blog posts.

They said:

> Anthropic _absolutely_ does

Sounds pretty certain Anthropic is in fact, using Claude to write blog posts. Enough to emphasize "absolutely". That doesn't read like "I'm going off of vibes", that reads like "I can prove it". So, fine. Prove it. I don't believe it, and I want to hear the proof.

I'm skeptical, but it wouldn't be my first time being wrong. But flatly, if you make claims with this kind of certainty, yes I want to hear your proof.

My point in saying "Even Anthropic doesn't appear to be using Claude for blog posts" was not meant to be some striking revelation, I literally was considering it a prior to make another point. This on the other hand sure does sound like a striking revelation to me, that a lot of people across the Internet would be curious to hear. Like I'm sure these people would be interested:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wdfd92/are_anthr...

I will admit that I am unnecessarily aggressive sometimes, but I wouldn't have changed my response much in any case. If you're going to make a strong claim like this, I want your evidence, not your vibes. Otherwise, the claim should be a lot weaker.

I also realize that this sort of brashness upsets HN a bit, but it is what it is. I pandered comments for votes in my 20s a bit, time to grow up, sometimes people won't like you. Sometimes I feel something deserves a brash response.

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