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Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Since it appears to have gotten hugged to death - https://web.archive.org/web/20260908084626/https://ciphercue... Not really unexpected, US domination of "tech" is near total, even if the sustained political will exists (and I'm not sure it will for long enough) unwinding that is the expensive work of years/decades not months. Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more…

> Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more like the PR arm of US big tech) is even trickier. You mean the US government working towards the interests of its people and economy? Which government wouldn't? It's kinda what we want it to do.

I think if you think it's in the interest of the people of the USA for the country to be a cynical, overt, quixotic, childish bully on a global basis, including acting as goons on behalf of tech companies, that's an opinion you are certainly entitled to.

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> EU or China don't act as global hegemon France has global geopolitical projects, as does China in South America, Central Asia and Africa. Both export arms into conflicts and conduct global intelligence operations.

Sure, some also still dream secretly of a french global empire and french as the rightful lingua franca reinstalled. But de facto they ain't a global hegemon - the US is. And people were mostly fine with it, while they were not obviously abusing their position of power for themself.

> they ain't a global hegemon - the US is

This is currently a legitimately open question.

America acts like a global hegemon. My point is simply that France and China act similarly, too—they both project power across oceans and continents. (To what end is, as with America’s power projection, a good question.)

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. Cloudflare is the LG TV of websites, but it's worse because we've known it has an always-on microphone and speech-to-text for over a decade and we still keep using it for some reason.

> The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. I doubt the NSA is gobbling up all the CF traffic because maybe, maybe they will find something of interest. Can the NSA make CF "mirror" your website traffic to them if you are of interest to them, most likely yes. I am not that paranoid to think that my website of a few corporate pages is of interest to th…

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Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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It's seriously good value for small websites. Basically, there is no cost aside from the domain. And for registering and managing domains, they are pretty much the most affordable option as well. And they have a few other things that aren't half bad to use with pretty generous freemium layers. We used Google's CDN for the last six years or so but it's pretty annoying to deal with and you have to pay for a load balanc…

Re: complexity. I used to find AWS unusable, then I realized I can just tell Claude Code or Codex to manage it. This makes it into an entirely different product, where "Cloudflare is easier" doesn't really matter. Now price is the only barrier.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. Cloudflare is the LG TV of websites, but it's worse because we've known it has an always-on microphone and speech-to-text for over a decade and we still keep using it for some reason.

> The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. I doubt the NSA is gobbling up all the CF traffic because maybe, maybe they will find something of interest. Can the NSA make CF "mirror" your website traffic to them if you are of interest to them, most likely yes. I am not that paranoid to think that my website of a few corporate pages is of interest to th…

The NSA collects and archives all internet traffic it can access for future analysis. It's the purpose of the Utah Data center.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

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> Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more like the PR arm of US big tech) is even trickier. I'm thinking the opposite might be the way to go here. We already know that "retaliation" comes from the US government regardless if you did something or not, so most of us (Europeans) have stopped pretending there is a way of preventing it. Even more, if we piss off Trump eno…

While I theoretically agree, the issue is that Trump will connect economical issues to blowing up NATO Article 5, leaving NATO completely, or retracting intelligence or Starlink for Ukraine. So for the most part, the EU has to work slowly and under the radar. That said, my worry is that we'll be back to business as usual if the midterms look favorable. Even the urgency present during January's Greenland threats was g…

> So for the most part, the EU has to work slowly and under the radar.

How convenient. If it wasn't for the US, the EU would work really fast and in the open! That is totally believable.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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You are not living in Europe, right? Because while I agree that China is a problem, the USA is a much, much bigger problem for Europeans than China is right now. It's mostly the USA that wants to depict China as the main problem when in reality the USA behaves in a hugely aggressive colonial manner. Trump just makes this more obvious, but that has been the case way before Trump already.

Please speak for yourself. Not everyone in Europe thinks US is bigger problem than China. For many China is far bigger geopolitical threat since they openly support Russia in its current war.

As a European that lives 200km from the Russian border it seems the USA has been supporting Russia in its current war a lot more than China.

Consider these points: - US withdrawing it's "Intel support" just as Russia started a major offensive last year. - US starting the war on Iran clearly to help their pal Putin on oil prices, now they try to use Ukraine as a scapegoat for "attacking Russian oil export infrastructure" - Another "side effect" of war in Iran. No more patriots or modern weapons for any country that ordered them from the USA in recent years and was expecting deliveries just about now. - US committing actual act of war (threatening force has been considered an act of war for centuries) against the EU by talking about invading Greenland (most certainly if Russia attacked Estonia US would try their luck with Greenland on same day, does it remind you anything from history?) - US essentially waging an economic war on the rest of NATO. - US companies with full support of the state trying to deny computing hardware to the rest of the world in hope they manage to monopolise compute capability using AI as cover (yes China is a real ally in this).

And much more.

Yes, the US is a much higher threat to the EU than China now.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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> thousands of troops in dozens of military bases on European soil is not, somehow Presence of allies is not colonialism. Threat to annex Greenland is. Threat to annex Canada is. Keeping pet dictator in Venezuela and taking their oil is. On the other hand, when Germans, France and other European soldiers came to Greenland to defend against an American threat, it was not colonialism. It was being allies. > and withdra…

Which way is it: Allies or a threat? How much double-think can you fit within a comment? To me the question is crystal clear: No country should want to have foreign troops permanently stationed on their soil, no matter how good friends they are.

> Which way is it: Allies or a threat? How much double-think can you fit within a comment?

America was a trusted, respected and liked allied nation. It was not a threat. Then Trump supported by people like you turned into a threat to Canada (another former ally), Greenland, democracy and freedom. So, America is not respected or liked, except by neo-nazi it supports. There is no double think involved here.

> To me the question is crystal clear: No country should want to have foreign troops permanently stationed on their soil, no matter how good friends they are.

It is irrelevant what you think about what other countries should or should not want. The question is what is colonialism.

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