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Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by jonnybgood »

noir_lord wrote: post #4

Since it appears to have gotten hugged to death - https://web.archive.org/web/20260908084626/https://ciphercue... Not really unexpected, US domination of "tech" is near total, even if the sustained political will exists (and I'm not sure it will for long enough) unwinding that is the expensive work of years/decades not months. Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more…

> Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more like the PR arm of US big tech) is even trickier.

You mean the US government working towards the interests of its people and economy? Which government wouldn't? It's kinda what we want it to do.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by embedding-shape »

eckesicle wrote: post #66
microtonal wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I theoretically agree, the issue is that Trump will connect economical issues to blowing up NATO Article 5, leaving NATO completely, or retracting intelligence or Starlink for Ukraine. So for the most part, the EU has to work slowly and under the radar. That said, my worry is that we'll be back to business as usual if the midterms look favorable. Even the urgency present during January's Greenland threats was g…

I asked the Swedish Prime Minister this question almost verbatim on Reddit two days ago and he responded. The answer was ... understated. https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/1w8p0z4/comment/p84...

Oh, I missed that. Interesting non-answer regarding AI, seems almost obvious by now they don't even consider it a concept in the real world. Back when I lived in Sweden the politicians were already pretty disconnected from the average person, but in regards AI they seem to be intentionally avoiding it and sleeping on it?

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by shevy-java »

zkmon wrote: post #70
noir_lord wrote: post #4

Since it appears to have gotten hugged to death - https://web.archive.org/web/20260908084626/https://ciphercue... Not really unexpected, US domination of "tech" is near total, even if the sustained political will exists (and I'm not sure it will for long enough) unwinding that is the expensive work of years/decades not months. Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more…

>> US domination of "tech" is near total. Not quite when considering China having the tech freedom they wanted. Also switching internet services is far easier than switching physical supply chains. The only thing that might be hard to switch is the part of the interent backbone infra that is controlled by USA.

You are not living in Europe, right? Because while I agree that China is a problem, the USA is a much, much bigger problem for Europeans than China is right now. It's mostly the USA that wants to depict China as the main problem when in reality the USA behaves in a hugely aggressive colonial manner. Trump just makes this more obvious, but that has been the case way before Trump already.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by thesmtsolver2 »

jonnybgood wrote: post #81
noir_lord wrote: post #4

Since it appears to have gotten hugged to death - https://web.archive.org/web/20260908084626/https://ciphercue... Not really unexpected, US domination of "tech" is near total, even if the sustained political will exists (and I'm not sure it will for long enough) unwinding that is the expensive work of years/decades not months. Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more…

> Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more like the PR arm of US big tech) is even trickier. You mean the US government working towards the interests of its people and economy? Which government wouldn't? It's kinda what we want it to do.

Didn’t you read the memo? Only European govts or China can act in the interests of their people and companies but if the US does that it is immoral.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by amelius »

pyvpx wrote: post #64
amelius wrote: post #38

But isn't a CDN a commodity? I.e., you can switch to a different one with almost no effort.

How does that quip go again…there are only two difficulties in computer science, cache invalidation, naming things, and counting. Going from one CDN to another can be infuriating even at a surprisingly small scale. Mostly (imo) from caching semantics and counting.

Can you give a practical example?

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by edelbitter »

em500 wrote: post #31

Tale as old as time (or at least as the 1970s): nobody ever got fired for buying ~~IBM~~ Cloudfare / AWS / Azure. 9 out of 10 corporate decisions are for blame avoidance / ass covering.

.. 9 out of 10 unhappy customers are currently unable to cause any blame, because they cannot even reach customer service because they are getting the "bot" treatment.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by cbg0 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #54
viraptor wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you need to configure your webserver to rate limit stuff that suck bandwidth/CPU from you This works for cases where the traffic takes too long to process. Once you get 3gbit traffic on your 1gbit link, you can't do anything yourself - the only thing that can save you is a bigger pipe.

> Once you get 3gbit traffic on your 1gbit link, you can't do anything yourself - the only thing that can save you is a bigger pipe. Realistically, out of the DDoS we typically see, how many are in fact "they had bigger pipes than you"? I've come across that once in my ~3 decade career maintaining infrastructure for websites, some quite popular. Most of the time the attacks are relatively low-effort and easy to stave…

I was curious and it seems like smaller businesses do get DDoSed, ~5% of them in Canada:

https://www.bdc.ca/en/articles-tools/blog/cyberattacks-small...

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by plufz »

jonnybgood wrote: post #81
noir_lord wrote: post #4

Since it appears to have gotten hugged to death - https://web.archive.org/web/20260908084626/https://ciphercue... Not really unexpected, US domination of "tech" is near total, even if the sustained political will exists (and I'm not sure it will for long enough) unwinding that is the expensive work of years/decades not months. Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more…

> Doing it in a way that won't invite retaliation from the US Gov (which seems more and more like the PR arm of US big tech) is even trickier. You mean the US government working towards the interests of its people and economy? Which government wouldn't? It's kinda what we want it to do.

I don’t want my government to be a corporate controlled army for the big corps in my country.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by thesmtsolver2 »

shevy-java wrote: post #83
zkmon wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> US domination of "tech" is near total. Not quite when considering China having the tech freedom they wanted. Also switching internet services is far easier than switching physical supply chains. The only thing that might be hard to switch is the part of the interent backbone infra that is controlled by USA.

You are not living in Europe, right? Because while I agree that China is a problem, the USA is a much, much bigger problem for Europeans than China is right now. It's mostly the USA that wants to depict China as the main problem when in reality the USA behaves in a hugely aggressive colonial manner. Trump just makes this more obvious, but that has been the case way before Trump already.

What? Go ask almost anyone in Asia outside Mainland China.

They all consider China to be the aggressor because they are. E.g., Tibet or India.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by kakacik »

pocksuppet wrote: post #65
jillesvangurp wrote: post #58

It's seriously good value for small websites. Basically, there is no cost aside from the domain. And for registering and managing domains, they are pretty much the most affordable option as well. And they have a few other things that aren't half bad to use with pretty generous freemium layers. We used Google's CDN for the last six years or so but it's pretty annoying to deal with and you have to pay for a load balanc…

The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. Cloudflare is the LG TV of websites, but it's worse because we've known it has an always-on microphone and speech-to-text for over a decade and we still keep using it for some reason.

If you care about security and specifically NSA, don't use US clouds (owned or hosted), period. There is not a single one they don't have full access to, why should there be one.

Or clouds in general, its all wishful thinking and pinky promises.

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