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> I'd be curious to hear takes on what would make you think Astra is yet to be AGI, and what would still need to be achieved for this to effectively be AGI from this point forward. To me AGI is all about the "G" general (we already had the AI part). General meaning universal, everything. It's not a function of knowledge or specific hardcoded tests, it's that you could give it a test it's never heard of before and nev…

Most of humans don’t reach any of these levels.

I would be willing to bet that any human for which we spend $100billion - $3 trillion (depending if you want to count single corporations or global totals) on in an attempt to make them as capable as possible would be able to reach all of those levels.

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I might be jaded, but these examples look silly, stereotyped, and absolutely how of touch with the nuances and the complexities of what real people would actually want/need to do in this specific situations.

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It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

Yeah. I’m almost glad I didn’t invest any time in any of my 100s ideas for a startup. Most of them would be destroyed by AI by now. But, you can create cool stuff just for yourself. That’s the upside. It’s just hard to make a living on cool stuff for yourself.

For some reason, I feel much less excited about creating things myself just knowing that ai can do it in 1/10th of the time. Even if I know it wouldn’t turn into a business or make me money. I don’t know why that is, but I was much more motivated to build anything (even things just for myself) before ai. Kinda depressing

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It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

Is there a point in playing Chess or Go when you know there's a computer out there that can beat you (and everyone else)?

You can play PvP in those games. Not really the same with developing software. In fact, not using ai would probably make you lose if there was some “software PvP” mode or development.

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The ARC-AGI-3 scorecard is extremely misleading given that it clearly states itself that "with [the responses API] harness, we estimate Sol would score in the ballpark of ~30%." but it shows a score of 7.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol presumably since if they updated the percentage for GPT-5.6 Sol to the score it would receive with the responses API harness they used for GPT-6 Astra they'd have to do the same for the percentage…

AGI to me is reached once the intelligence is self motivated, i.e. it doesn't rely on us prompting it into action. I don't see how LLMs will ever get to that stage.

Wouldn't agents that do inference in an infinite loop pass that bar?

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That hero video is interesting. A projector and speech. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I find speech to text / text to speech (but not live audio mode) is quite comfortable and effective for coding now. The speech to text part can be frustrating if your local tts model does not have word match context for coding. Codex desktop does this remotely well but is slow. I've been experimenting with local software for m…

which raises the question, is the model in the demo actually gpt-6? or it is gpt realtime 2.1? It's unclear how gpt-6 can interact at the realtime level and if so, how can developer get access to it?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd be curious to hear takes on what would make you think Astra is yet to be AGI, and what would still need to be achieved for this to effectively be AGI from this point forward. To me AGI is all about the "G" general (we already had the AI part). General meaning universal, everything. It's not a function of knowledge or specific hardcoded tests, it's that you could give it a test it's never heard of before and nev…

It also cannot do tasks it wasn't trained for. It can extend texts, read images and click on a desktop, but only because it's made for that.

I don't think that's strictly true, as I can give it a new gui or tui program it wasn't trained on and it will learn it. Unless you're talking about general abilities like sight, but the same is somewhat true of humans.

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For people skeptical of AGI. Consider the following: 15 years ago if you were the sole proprietor of these models, would you be able to hold a dozen remote junior engineer jobs? Maybe even more? These models could certainly pass all interviews with flying colors and even survive independently in a company role. I think sole ownership of AI 15 years ago could be worth north of $10 million per year. Just as rank-and-fi…

Cool. Being sole proprietor of AGI 15 years ago should result in monuments and religions devoted to you today.

Cancer should be cured, and we should be a post-quantum interstellar fusion-powered civilization.

I wish the AGI crowd would finally shut up now that it's clear no one is even trying for AGI (OpenAI revised that to "$100B in profit")

What we're getting is incredible, where we're headed is incredible, but some people have such a fetish for futuretelling they can't just shut up and enjoy the ride.

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It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

> Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds? I built a phone app recently, not released to the public, just an idea I had for ages but could never spend the time actually building. Its 100% vibe coded, and took me a few weekends to build... I'm talking a few hours in total. The point I'm making is that you now have the power to create stuff you would never have had the time to build. You can think…

My car has offline maps and navigation. I don't really care for navigation, but I find the maps pretty handy. VW releases updates very infrequently, and I don't know for how long they'll keep doing that. Recently I wondered whether I could convert OpenStreetMaps into the format used by the car. Codex took around a week to do that for me, with some light steering. That project would no doubt have taken me months - maybe a whole year to do on my own, and I'm not fully confident I could pull it off as well as Codex did. I can pull the most up to date maps from OSM, edit them as much as I want, and they look great on the car. It's mind boggling to me that we have this tech.
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