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Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by rmsaksida »

Flere-Imsaho wrote: post #478
XCSme wrote: post #335

It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

> Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds? I built a phone app recently, not released to the public, just an idea I had for ages but could never spend the time actually building. Its 100% vibe coded, and took me a few weekends to build... I'm talking a few hours in total. The point I'm making is that you now have the power to create stuff you would never have had the time to build. You can think…

My car has offline maps and navigation. I don't really care for navigation, but I find the maps pretty handy. VW releases updates very infrequently, and I don't know for how long they'll keep doing that. Recently I wondered whether I could convert OpenStreetMaps into the format used by the car. Codex took around a week to do that for me, with some light steering. That project would no doubt have taken me months - maybe a whole year to do on my own, and I'm not fully confident I could pull it off as well as Codex did. I can pull the most up to date maps from OSM, edit them as much as I want, and they look great on the car. It's mind boggling to me that we have this tech.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by claiir »

> Astra improved a term in a bound on these gaps that had remained unchanged for more than 80 years. We’re sharing the proofs and abridged chain of thought and verification materials for both results.

Looks like they listened to Terry Tao’s request for CoT in his talk on LLM use in mathematics?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by XCSme »

billypilgrim wrote: post #406
XCSme wrote: post #335

It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

„The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.“ -Mitch Hedberg

The same how Magnus Carlsen says he never plays chess against a computer, because it makes no sense to do it.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by dlubarov »

10xDev wrote: post #442
intenex wrote: post #248

The ARC-AGI-3 scorecard is extremely misleading given that it clearly states itself that "with [the responses API] harness, we estimate Sol would score in the ballpark of ~30%." but it shows a score of 7.8% for GPT-5.6 Sol presumably since if they updated the percentage for GPT-5.6 Sol to the score it would receive with the responses API harness they used for GPT-6 Astra they'd have to do the same for the percentage…

It will be AGI once it can update its own weights. It can't be "general" intelligence if its weights are frozen and requires to be updated manually.

Why shouldn't an AI with RAG qualify?

An AGI test should be black-box; we shouldn't impose require requirements on internal components. As long as the overall AI is capable of learning and remembering things, it shouldn't matter if there's a stateless LLM internally.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by XCSme »

flaviolivolsi wrote: post #469
XCSme wrote: post #335

It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

I think the limit increasingly becomes what your imagination and taste can reach

True, but for many domains where my knowledge is limited, the LLMs beat me at imagination and taste too...

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by dakolli »

Why is everyone so excited to be replaced and become reliant on some billionaire's thinking machine? These are just going to be used to turn you into a rather dumb reliant paypig.

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by XCSme »

soundworlds wrote: post #475
XCSme wrote: post #335

It's fun, but every new model release makes me even less interested to create cool stuff. Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?

Don't worry, like with every revolutionary technology before this, it takes 5-10 years for people to find new and creative ways to use it. It will be considered its own medium in many spaces (e.g. film is now different to theatre)

But was there ever a technology that even the people working on it said it's making them feel depressed and scared?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by echoangle »

manlymuppet wrote: post #400

I have nothing to say about the actual model, but unrelated--why do so many of these demos include people buying things autonomously? Even if I did trust an AI to get everything right, it's not like the AI can read my mind. If I was ordering food normally and without AI, I would want more control over the process--looking over the options, prices, thinking about what I really want. People don't know what they really…

That’s exactly the problem I have with all this agent ideas too. Imagine you had a human concierge that is just waiting for your instructions and is as smart or a bit smarter than you. Would you just tell them “plan this holiday for me” or “order this food”? I don’t even trust my friends to get this right, why would I give this to someone else?

Re: GPT-6 Astra

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Post by dakolli »

karmasimida wrote: post #124
x312 wrote: post #98

Hmm, 61 on ArtificialAnalysis, effectively matching GPT-5.6 and trailing the new Meta model. How is that possible along with the other metrics they shared? Insanely jagged intelligence?

Idk, this means the benchmark has bigger problems ... no way Astra will be worse than Opus 5 Only thing I would trust is the what X/Twitter crowds are saying about a model after 2-3 weeks of its launch. But before that I would already tried the model and have my own conclusion.

must be something wrong with the benchmark, the thing everyone optimizes for. That's actually a big red flag, and very cringe that you'd naively believe OpenAI.
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