Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?

Post by TZubiri » Wed, Sep 02, 2026, 5:02 PM UTC

lukeschlather wrote: post #83

I'd be interested in some legal/GDPR takes on PII handling in prompts. If someone enters PII into a prompt, and Mistral retains it for training, is it sufficient for them to say "don't enter PII into prompts?" Of course with Claude and so on this bothers me too, but it doesn't seem like there's any real recourse under US law. But I would hope that "oh you shouldn't enter PII" isn't going to cut it under European law,…

Post by bee_rider » Wed, Sep 02, 2026, 5:10 PM UTC

rcxdude wrote: post #97

bee_rider wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I don’t find what you wrote confusing, but I do think it is following a sort of… bad convention that some companies have been pushing. Opt-in and opt-out describe the nature of the choice that you make. “Opt” means to choose (apparently it is a French word we stole). Opt-in means you have to proactively choose to be in. Opt-out means you have to proactively choose to be out. “Opt-in by default” is an overly verb…

>Edit: I should also say that it is a “known point of contention” where pro-privacy people have been pushing back on this phrasing. So, you have probably accidentally stumbled into an ongoing discussion, which is why some of the comments might be unexpectedly prickly. Yes, because people will say that something should be opt-in, meaning off by default, and then someone makes it on by default and says 'oh, it's opt-in…

Post by AmazingTurtle » Wed, Sep 02, 2026, 5:26 PM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #102

segmondy wrote: post #7

There are so models that beats all of Mistral models, plus you can run many of them locally. Why would anyone run Mistral?

Qwen 3.8 27B absolutely demolishes Mistral best offerings at coding, and you only need a 5090 or 2x3090 to run it.

Post by dwedge » Wed, Sep 02, 2026, 5:29 PM UTC

maz1b wrote: post #19

I could be mistaken, but wasn't Mistral openly championing themselves as a company and EU option that wouldn't do this/didn't do this?

Post by mahirsaid » Wed, Sep 02, 2026, 5:30 PM UTC

bee_rider wrote: post #103

rcxdude wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Edit: I should also say that it is a “known point of contention” where pro-privacy people have been pushing back on this phrasing. So, you have probably accidentally stumbled into an ongoing discussion, which is why some of the comments might be unexpectedly prickly. Yes, because people will say that something should be opt-in, meaning off by default, and then someone makes it on by default and says 'oh, it's opt-in…

I 100% agree that “opt-in by default” is bad and that “opted” in that sense is a bullshit incoherent phrase. Unfortunately this “opting as a thing that happens to you instead of a choice” idea has evidently been promoted well, so we have to expect that people will unknowingly use it.