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Same company that has a partnership with Saudis, btw.
I think you would be hard pressed to find any relevant tech company that doesn’t have a relationship with the Saudis or is funded by them - or any government for that matter…
There are so models that beats all of Mistral models, plus you can run many of them locally. Why would anyone run Mistral?
Of course I’m not always on the most bleeding edge forefront of the latest hyped model so there might be better alternatives, but I’m happy with what they provide
the rapid enshittification in LLM hype cycle is something else. Got to love the private equity parasites ruining everything for the sake of profit.
Most commenters here clutching their pearls as if Claude and Gemini Pro didn't do it already. In the latter you (as a paying customer) can't even store the chat history unless you agree to their 'improvement of services'. Do you have all your accounts paid for by the enterprise or you never check the settings?
> Most commenters here clutching their pearls as if Claude and Gemini Pro didn't do it already. That's not the point though. The problem is that in the minds of lots of people including here on HN or otherwise, a service based in the EU is de-facto "more" respectful of digital privacy. You can read the comments on threads related to the EU tech where you will find people defending to the very end that privacy is bett…
But fact of the matter is that the US is rapidly sliding into totalitarianism and at the same time US tech companies have an hu huge influence worldwide.
I commend any alternative that comes from outside the US and also offers an “open source” selfhosted option.
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If you don’t trust the company to keep their promise, don’t use their products.
I don't trust any company with their word on anything. Luckily, privacy policies are legally binding.
Laws are violated all the time. The graveyard is full of people who had the right-of-way at a crosswalk ...
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I don't have that toggle (but could indeed have sworn I saw it earlier). Sorry, I have always thought that "opting in" is, "opting for the presented option" and opting out is "opting out of it", so opting out [of sharing prompts for training] is choosing to not share, but apparently I was wrong my whole life. I'm not a native speaker, and I think most people here (in my country) would interpret this the way I do? Wei…
FWIW I don’t find what you wrote confusing, but I do think it is following a sort of… bad convention that some companies have been pushing. Opt-in and opt-out describe the nature of the choice that you make. “Opt” means to choose (apparently it is a French word we stole). Opt-in means you have to proactively choose to be in. Opt-out means you have to proactively choose to be out. “Opt-in by default” is an overly verb…
Yes, because people will say that something should be opt-in, meaning off by default, and then someone makes it on by default and says 'oh, it's opt-in, you're just opted in by default!'
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> and at the same time seemed to have lost the ability to centrally disable training on prompts for your entire organization There is a toggle on https://admin.mistral.ai that allows you to disable training for both Vibe and Console/API for your entire organisation. And I'm not on the enterprise plan. I've disabled training the first time I created an account, and it has remained that way. You story is also very conf…
My native-US-English speaker read: “disappointed that the Pro tier was opt ed -in to training on prompts by default” [and required manually opting out] “the Team tier was now also opt ed -in by default” [and required manually opting out] In context of each sentence and the larger comment, read smoothly here. Also - have seen more than one lively discussion on these phrases, since defaults can stick 95% of the time an…
if you sign the contract (click I agree on Terms of Service), and it says that they do not train on the data, by what right can they backtrack on that?
Maybe it is assumed that they notified you and you have the right to terminate the contract? Relying on some clause where the contract can be updated at any time. Or terminated at any time (with the presumption that a clause change is a termination and an automatic signing of the new contract, but that's weak)
They wouldn’t dare train on language inputs from the wild, but they will happily strip out any code snippets you’re providing and sell/train on that à la GitHub/Copilot. File uploads too