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Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by tentacleuno »

encrypted_bird wrote: post #280
tentacleuno wrote: post #78

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> I routinely have 50+ tabs open For what it's worth, I've been known to have 300+ tabs open all in separate windows (I just forget about them and they tend to accumulate), and for the most part it handled it just fine (it did use quite a lot of RAM, of course.) That was on an i7 7700k with 32GB of RAM. I remember being quite impressed indeed.

Genuine thought: maybe it's the separate windows?

Maybe, yeah. It did seem a bit slower around the 400 mark, though -- there are definitely limitations.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by vandyswa »

stephen_g wrote: post #291
Telaneo wrote: post #212

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I love Firefox. It just doesn't always feel like it loves me back.

I use Firefox and I like it (especially being able to use uBlock Origin), but I really dislike what Mozilla has become over the last ten years or so. I think that's the key distinction, I can mostly manage Mozilla's crap by turning off a bunch of stuff in my Firefox settings, but I think it's really important for the web to not use a Chromium based browser.

Yes, uBlock Origin. How can that not be _the_ killer app for surviving with your sanity when (trying to) view the modern web?

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by shakow »

AnonC wrote: post #371
cpburns2009 wrote: post #321

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Mozilla's not exactly short on funds. They take in at least $500,000,000 every year.

AFAIK, from reading the annual reports years ago, this nice sum of money belongs to Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit that works on making a better web. Mozilla Corporation, the for-profit entity that makes Firefox, doesn’t seem to have as much as it needs. Hence MDN Plus, Mozilla VPN, and other services.

That's self-inflicted though; they could just thesaurize that money and live on the interests to fund Firefox forever.

That they decide to burn through it by paying 7 figures salaries for their C-suites, buying luxury offices at the heart of Paris and launching plethoras of feel-good initiatives left-and-right is their own choice.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by Vinnl »

mmooss wrote: post #337
_dark_matter_ wrote: post #292

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I worked at Mozilla for quite a long time. I can tell you that MANY employees will be reading every comment in this thread. Hello mozillians! Don't forget to do something good for the web tomorrow!

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I mean, there are plenty of reasonable takes (some of which are criticism) too. Generally, working at Mozilla doesn't make it much more torturous than before, when I was merely an unpaid open web advocate :)

(Reading every comment is a bit much though.)

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by TimTheTinker »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #39
TimTheTinker wrote: post #11

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Rumors of Firefox's death have been circling for at least 15 years now... somehow it's kept going despite odd incentives and bad corporate decisions.

Both can be true. Progressing without innovation only works when your product is Coca-Cola or Bic lighters. FireFox as a name or brand is nowhere near it's former v1.0-3.0 glory days.

Perhaps, but is there any modern browser name or brand that inspires the kind of fierce loyalty Firefox did 20 years ago?

It was the alternative to IE6, the first rays of dawn bringing hope to to a desolate, war-torn funereal valley of culpable corporate complacence.

Hatred for IE6 drove people to Firefox more than anything else - IE was horrible. Firefox users crowdfunded a two-page ad in the New York Times, mostly to get people to move off of IE6.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by Vinnl »

binkHN wrote: post #296
autoexec wrote: post #53

> Meanwhile, the over thinkers on Hacker News come up with convoluted reasons to hate on Firefox every time the subject arises...Firefox is our last best hope for browser engine diversity and competition. It's exactly because Firefox is so important that you'll see people here complaining when Firefox does things to push away users like Mozilla buying up an ad-tech company, collecting data on users, and using firefox…

Hate that they recently implemented PWAs, but didn't bother making sure the icon for the site worked, so all PWAs have the genetic Firefox icon. The most valuable feature of PWAs is to identify a tab as a standalone app and there's no fix for this in sight.

I just tried it out with this page, and it gets the HN icon for me. I am on Nightly and on Linux, so possibly this is an actual bug you're running into, but no fix in sight might be too pessimistic. But definitely worth reporting otherewise.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by hiccuphippo »

mmooss wrote: post #337
_dark_matter_ wrote: post #292

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I worked at Mozilla for quite a long time. I can tell you that MANY employees will be reading every comment in this thread. Hello mozillians! Don't forget to do something good for the web tomorrow!

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They are probably nodding in agreement while management lives in its bubble.

I do not hate Firefox but I hate it when Mozilla uses my donation money in not Firefox.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by binkHN »

Vinnl wrote: post #487
binkHN wrote: post #296

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Hate that they recently implemented PWAs, but didn't bother making sure the icon for the site worked, so all PWAs have the genetic Firefox icon. The most valuable feature of PWAs is to identify a tab as a standalone app and there's no fix for this in sight.

I just tried it out with this page, and it gets the HN icon for me. I am on Nightly and on Linux, so possibly this is an actual bug you're running into, but no fix in sight might be too pessimistic. But definitely worth reporting otherewise.

Wonderful to hear this is fixed in Nightly on Linux; thanks for the heads up. I reported this several months ago.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by Vinnl »

3r7j6qzi9jvnve wrote: post #281
delecti wrote: post #151

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What's different about the Awesome Bar from Chrome? IIRC Chrome had the unified search/URL bar before Firefox did, and I don't remember it being very different from Firefox's implementation. If anything, I remember it being easier to add search engines in Chrome (unless it's gotten worse in the past few years since I switched to Firefox). Am I missing out on cool features of the URL bar in Firefox? Edit: made my ques…

Not sure if chrome has an equivalent but FF bar allows limiting results, e.g. adding a single % in the bar will search tabs, ^ history, * bookmarks, (+ searchs tagged bookmarks? there's no shiny icon)...

Worth knowing: you can also use @tabs, @history, @bookmarks, etc. now. Way easier to remember :)
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