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Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by AnonC »

cpburns2009 wrote: post #321
s3p wrote: post #302

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But they have to make money. Else they go away. I don't understand how people think Mozilla can just exist and be permanently solvent forever

Mozilla's not exactly short on funds. They take in at least $500,000,000 every year.

AFAIK, from reading the annual reports years ago, this nice sum of money belongs to Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit that works on making a better web. Mozilla Corporation, the for-profit entity that makes Firefox, doesn’t seem to have as much as it needs. Hence MDN Plus, Mozilla VPN, and other services.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by evilduck »

culi wrote: post #259
DrewADesign wrote: post #250

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Sure, but Firefox doesn’t have to be Chrome to be unacceptable, and Chrome isn’t the only alternative. I reject the idea that Firefox can transgress as much as they want as long as Chrome has gotten worse. And fuck then for buying and killing fakespot.

Chrome is the only alternative unless you have access to Safari. Brave, Opera, Edge, etc are all Chromium and will all deprecate Manifest V2 eventually. The V2 mess is just one example of how Google can continue to stangle the web even if you're not using Chrome itself.

Epiphany on Linux is a pretty straightforward Webkit browser. Konqueror still exists. Ladybird is up and coming. Servo is still making progress.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

cute_boi wrote: post #322
xgulfie wrote: post #100

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Here's a fun example https://archive.is/ZtQpj Another funny moment from this guy https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814#issuecommen...

what is wrong about it? I have issue with diversity that it allows someone to game the whole system. Diversity, Equity and Inclusion looks very good on paper, but in real world implementation it fails abysmally. I can tell because some of my friend who don't know anything got into companies by the same diversity and highly talented friend were rejected.

Not talking about you. But a white supremacist would be ok with only white people formally employed because whoever is not white wouldn't get a job without gaming the system. Pick the lesser evil.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by dartharva »

mhitza wrote: post #13
hx8 wrote: post #6

I am under the impression that Firefox is the only web browser which has access to quality ad blocker. Am I incorrect in this? How is this not enough of a selling point for everyone to switch to it?

Brave's adblocker does a good job. As far as I know Firefox started using some of the Rust written components of that engine. Interestingly on fingerprinting test websites, Brave also did significantly better than Firefox + PrivacyBadger + ublock Origin + one or two more which I forgot. When I ran some tests a couple months back.

Brave is nowhere near as snappy as Chrome and Firefox with all its bloat.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by mplanchard »

mmooss wrote: post #337
_dark_matter_ wrote: post #292

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I worked at Mozilla for quite a long time. I can tell you that MANY employees will be reading every comment in this thread. Hello mozillians! Don't forget to do something good for the web tomorrow!

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Seriously, I’m with the person who says people hating on Firefox are often just trying to justify sticking with Chrome due to the inertia.

I’ve been exclusively using Firefox for many years. I don’t even have a Chromium browser installed! (I just nix-shell it if I need to test anything.)

I love the raft of new features that have been coming through recently! I heavily use tab groups, profiles, split view, and the baked in VPN.

The loud ones are always the complainers, which is a problem for adoption, which is exactly what TFA is getting at.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by Genwald »

hx8 wrote: post #6

I am under the impression that Firefox is the only web browser which has access to quality ad blocker. Am I incorrect in this? How is this not enough of a selling point for everyone to switch to it?

I wonder how true this is now. I believe the functionality in MV3 has increased since it was released. There's still filters that can't be supported, but it seems like most are.

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/blob/main/chromium...

From "ublock-filters" only 1 filter was unsupported and 90 had unsupported domains dropped out of 10436. From "easylist" 18 out of 56109 filters are unsupported, no unsupported domains.

I'm sticking with uBlock-Origin, but not sure how much of a difference it makes these days.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by 6yyyyyy »

InvertedRhodium wrote: post #256
delecti wrote: post #151

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What's different about the Awesome Bar from Chrome? IIRC Chrome had the unified search/URL bar before Firefox did, and I don't remember it being very different from Firefox's implementation. If anything, I remember it being easier to add search engines in Chrome (unless it's gotten worse in the past few years since I switched to Firefox). Am I missing out on cool features of the URL bar in Firefox? Edit: made my ques…

Firefox doesn't report every keystroke put into the Awesome bar back to Mozilla, AFAIK.

It does (to the search engine you use) unless you turn off "Show search suggestions in address bar results".

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by shooly »

mmooss wrote: post #337
_dark_matter_ wrote: post #292

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I worked at Mozilla for quite a long time. I can tell you that MANY employees will be reading every comment in this thread. Hello mozillians! Don't forget to do something good for the web tomorrow!

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> abuse and ignorance

Toxic positivity is what's abusive and ignorant.

Re: Hang on to Your Firefox

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Post by dartharva »

jkahrs595 wrote: post #127

I use Zen (firefox under the hood) and I just don't understand all of the bitching people do about Firefox. Once I learned all about manifest v2 deprecation it was such an easy decision to move away from Chromium based browsers. The transition was one of the most painless things I've ever done in the software world. Literally what is the issue?

It's that Firefox occasionally breaks websites because most devs only test and target for Chrome. And that it is now more CPU and RAM-hungry than Chrome.

Also that it is controlled by Mozilla, an org ALLEGEDLY more interested in fringe politics than tech.

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