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2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by ed_mercer »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #230
stephenitis wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part of your PC died?

Motherboard. New motherboard…so new cpu socket (mine was Broadwell)…and new ram needed. GPU is mostly fine and can probably reuse that but it’s Vega so not the greatest I was due for an upgrade but the prices of everything is ridiculous. The thought of pc-of-Theseus’ing my busted ass PC is just sad. Thank god I bought a PS5 Pro before Sony started jacking up the prices. I remember when buying a $300 GPU was extravaga…

can't you just buy a used same class motherboard from a marketplace?

Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by Dylan16807 »

MattDamonSpace wrote: post #145
pu_pe wrote: post #37

This will have general inflationary consequences for consumer products (phones, consoles, laptops, etc.). On top of current uncertainties regarding oil and fertilizers, I think 2% inflation in the US and Europe would be a very optimistic target.

Why are “demand and supply driven price increases” considered inflationary? Isn’t it just… prices?

It's inflationary when the effect is big enough to have a meaningful impact on the price of the average good.

Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by bahmboo »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #211

My own PC died and now I’m locked out of my entire Steam library for the foreseeable future. A $2000 PC is literally a downgrade from what I bought 10 freaking years ago. What the freaking hell.

There's always the BC 250 route. Takes some work but seems cool.

Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by pdimitar »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #230
stephenitis wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part of your PC died?

Motherboard. New motherboard…so new cpu socket (mine was Broadwell)…and new ram needed. GPU is mostly fine and can probably reuse that but it’s Vega so not the greatest I was due for an upgrade but the prices of everything is ridiculous. The thought of pc-of-Theseus’ing my busted ass PC is just sad. Thank god I bought a PS5 Pro before Sony started jacking up the prices. I remember when buying a $300 GPU was extravaga…

Why don't you just get a MB only for now? What mandates an entire new batch of hardware?

Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by Dylan16807 »

gaigalas wrote: post #31
jbverschoor wrote: post #18

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Thanks to AI, we can now one-shot convert electron to native apps ;-)

Recipe for delicious pizza: 1. Make extra greasy pizza. Nauseating-level of grease. 2. Put pizza through De-Greasinator 5000. Sounds efficient.

You only need to make the app once before running it on a million computers. So it's more like greasy flavor development, then de-greasinating the recipe before going into mass production. It's not a big efficiency impact overall, it's more about how you like to spend your flavor development time.

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Post by docjay »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #223
vannevar wrote: post #190

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The problem isn't the price. No matter how much you pay, you can't take delivery of a chip that doesn't exist. Now, you could raise prices to the point where you destroy demand. But that's a tricky window to maneuver through.

If you can only make X number of widgets, you must increase the price until demand stabilizes at X.

Why must you increase the price?

Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by icedchai »

OJFord wrote: post #196
haroldp wrote: post #184

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> Sometimes you just need the space and not the speed. Your computer already supports that. It's called "swap".

Yeah but DDR3 was faster then and still is now - I can't imagine my M4 Mac having a slightly older version RAM would meaningfully affect me, but another 24GB of it (or whatever I have) would certainly be an improvement. CPUs have L1, L2, L3+ caches too after all.

It probably would. LPDDR5 memory bandwidth on M-series Macs is several multiples of the memory bandwidth available on DDR3 (depending on the exact chip, Pro, Max, etc... 4x to beyond 10x.) The whole system would be much, much slower.

Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

pdimitar wrote: post #234
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Motherboard. New motherboard…so new cpu socket (mine was Broadwell)…and new ram needed. GPU is mostly fine and can probably reuse that but it’s Vega so not the greatest I was due for an upgrade but the prices of everything is ridiculous. The thought of pc-of-Theseus’ing my busted ass PC is just sad. Thank god I bought a PS5 Pro before Sony started jacking up the prices. I remember when buying a $300 GPU was extravaga…

Why don't you just get a MB only for now? What mandates an entire new batch of hardware?

I’ve been pricing out my various options but the notion of replacing a 10 year old motherboard with another 10 year old motherboard is kinda lousy.

The PC I replaced when I bought this one was such a huge improvement.

My options basically boils down to fixing trash that’s falling apart or a sidegrade at best for the same price as what I bought a beast of a PC for 10 freaking years ago. Depressing.

Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by LoganDark »

docjay wrote: post #236
HumblyTossed wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can only make X number of widgets, you must increase the price until demand stabilizes at X.

Why must you increase the price?

Because if you take orders otherwise you won't be able to fulfill them.

Re: 2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

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Post by toss1 »

freeone3000 wrote: post #188
vannevar wrote: post #175

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>As the memory industry is still recovering from the challenging environment in 2023, this tight supply environment will help drive the considerable improvements in profitability and ROI (return on investment) that are needed to enable the investments required to support future growth. The problem is that they need actual chips tomorrow. I fear we are reaching the point in the semiconductor industry where, in order t…

The alternative is they could charge more. They could. And people would pay it.

Paying more would not help you when there is no more supply. It is a zero sum game.

Maybe you could pay someone else who is less desperate to part with some, but that does not increase supply.

Nine women cannot produce a baby in a month, even though you could average about one per month if you wait about nine months.

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