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Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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I wonder why Apple stayed absent from signing this?

I wonder if it has anything to do with Apple’s legal case against OAI.

No, it has to do with giving OpenAI nothing at the very beginning of the AI fiasco.

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Some irony: I subscribe to Claude and Codex (20x plans), and now Kimi. Why Kimi? because K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security. (I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response)

Yeah I tried to have a conversation about security yesterday with Claude and it immediately stopped me - I was taken aback, I didn’t expect it at all. This is highly problematic.

Recently Claude helped me fix a security issue and while it was present Claude would talk.

But after I fixed it and tried to talk to Claude again Claude stonewalled me like it assumed I was trying to introduce a hole…

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I wonder why Apple stayed absent from signing this?

Apple is allergic to industry-spanning consortiums.

Apples allergy goes back to Motorola saying no, IBM saying no, Intel saying no, which led to buying Pa Semi, Intrinsity, and Anobit which in turn led to the birth of Apple Silicon with in house Soc’s.

Waiting for the crowd means no vertical computing, no gorilla glass, multiple, ecosystems, Tandem OLED or thunderbolt five releases to a wide audience before most of the competition.

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I thought it would've made a lot of sense for Apple to be on this list as well.

Apple would be rather unaffected since they already signed a deal with Google/Gemini.

In time, what do you think is gonna happen with the Google Gemini models, I predict that in time Apple will just dump it when they’re ready… No different than dumping Intel. In similar Qualcomm is probably coming up in the near future 2027-2028.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are talking about the U.S. here, and no, 40k or 55k are not good salaries at all. It may be OK in Europe with the lower cost of living, etc., but the price of a new car is 50k in 2026, and a basic fast food meal pretty much anywhere is well north of $10.

And yet ~64+% of the US makes less than $74k/year. The median, once you filter out part-time and seasonal workers is ~$65k/year. You're right, they are not good salaries but they are the reality of wages in the US outside of the SF/NYC bubble.

Very, very true a large portion of the population in the Us is definitely hurting, and the proliferation of those luxury apartments across the country are not helping the housing market.

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Some irony: I subscribe to Claude and Codex (20x plans), and now Kimi. Why Kimi? because K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security. (I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response)

I’m in the exact same boat, although Codex isn’t quite as bad.

Fable smacked me for asking it to design a secure app without obvious security flaws and to double check it wasn’t using libraries with known security problems.

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Everyone keeps assuming that China will forever be publishing these models, but it is clear as a bell that that day is over. In the end every model will be buried under state control for the simple reason that they will soon be really dangerous, as China understands better than anyone. They will give Kimi K3 to the Sinaloa cartel and the US military, but that's about the end of it. Perfecting these autonomous agentia…

I don’t think the Sinoloa cartel cares at all about frontier models, and the military already runs their own locally deployed editions of Mythos.

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This is all a moot point because there's no way you can copyright a model because you can just randomly perturb weights and still be fine.

You can randomly shift every pixel in a movie by +/-1, doesn't make the original not copyrightable.

It’s difficult to detect a perturbed model, much less prove it was derived from another one.
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