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I don't believe that comment qualified it as an opinion when I responded to it
I get it - you're a kratom addict looking for validation. My post started with "My opinion is", and it was not edited or changed at any time. Kratom does have a severe negative effect on memory, BTW.
DEA to Temporarily Schedule 7-Oh and Related Substances to Protect Public Safety
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#192Actually reasonable decision from the DEA under RFK. Scheduling concentrated/semi-synthetic kratom products while leaving the weaker leaf-based products alone is a good compromise to reduce harm without criminalizing kratom (which has beneficial uses for opioid recovery and maintenance therapy) in general.
Raw leaf Kratom seems to be helpful for some with what I would consider a manageable and acceptable addiction danger. You can get hooked on it, realize there is an issues and cut back or come off it without it destroying your life. I see no reason to make it illegal. I've even seen is used by people to get off "harder" Kratom concentrates. Sorta like how we regulate beer and wine a bit differently than whiskey... sam…
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#193One of the big dangers I've heard of with 7-Oh is it seems like treatment centers don't really know how to treat withdrawal from it, which I've heard is extremely rough.
You can't treat it with opioid agonist therapy (buprenorphine, methadone, ...) to suppress the withdrawals like you would with most other cases of opioid dependency?
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yeah, I remember that one, and the bath salts thing. bleh.
Bath salts were synthetic cathinones. Sold online as plant food and bath salts because they were not for human consumption ;) And then they started getting sold in head shops and gas stations. Some are highly addictive, some are more benign. Methylone was a great cheap MDMA alternative and is one of the drugs that Trump signed an executive order to fast track studying for PTSD. As a guy posting on a nerd message boar…
Still surprised tv hasn't brought us a show like Breaking Bad but with designer drugs (the newer 21 Jump Street movies don't count).
I might check that site out but more because I like reading case studies about outlying things than any particular interest in drugs. Thanks.
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Then what happened? Better regulation, better enforcement, anti-smoking advertising campaigns, banning public smoking, and drastically reduced amongst youth and the general public. Cigarette regulation to reduce smoking starting in the mid/late 90s is the poster child for public policy done well.
I don't think it worked. I was floored by how much smoking I saw on a recent trip to Europe, by young people of all. Scary slogans on the packs, no effect. Cigs are barely a thing in the states now, you are kind of a low caste pariah if you smoke, but I guess vaping and cannabis picked up the baton. I am an ex pack-a-day smoker myself, but quit about 10y ago. Don't crave cigs or the smell, but do crave nicotine.
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Why would liquor be absorbed faster than beer given the same route (drinking)?
It's easier to drink more units of alcohol faster when it's more concentrated, and not full of bubbles. I don't think its so much that it's absorbed faster than it's just physically possible to drink 200 ml of liquor faster than it is to drink 1600ml of beer.
Alice gets ∞ of the Champagne of Beers. Bob gets one bottle of EverClear.
Ready. Set. Go
I think Bob wins.
One could also be obnoxious and argue that liquor is more easily concealed, transported, etc, therefore facilitating alcoholism more effectively by allowing a larger landscape.
But HN.
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I read the article and it's a bit tricky to tease out but the negative association with spirits does exist. To summarize: 1. The quantity of alcohol consumed per occasion is most strongly associated with harms. and 2. "The more alcohol was drunk per occasion, the higher the proportion of it which was drunk in the form of spirits" The choice of beverage and how much was drunk was more dependent on cultural, social, an…
My intuition tells me most people can't put down whiskey like they can beer. My guess is both of these are actual relevant things that affect behaviors, but I have no idea which is stronger.
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You can't treat it with opioid agonist therapy (buprenorphine, methadone, ...) to suppress the withdrawals like you would with most other cases of opioid dependency?
That's my understanding. I knew a guy that went through that, and basically they tried to treat it with opiate protocols and it didn't really work, and you have these overworked nurses that unfortunately just don't really know what to do there. Usually opiate withdrawal isn't as dangerous as like benzodiazepine withdrawal or alcohol withdrawal (which can kill you), so I don't think it's likely to kill most people, bu…