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U.S. allows Anthropic to release Mythos AI to ‘trusted’ US organizations

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Post by WarmWash »

Mairoce wrote: post #650
spwa4 wrote: post #562

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US as a large-scale import nation and so does not need the rest of the world (except perhaps Europe, and only small parts) to keep its markets open to the US. Even in the European case, Europe would lose much more than the US would if they closed their markets. Plus, a lot of Europe is either very close to breaking point and unwilling to change (Italy), or rapidly worsening into a crash, and unwilling to change (…

Ah yes, the classic “Europe is in decline” narrative favored by Americans. You’d think after more than a decade of that nonsense, people would start to ignore it or at least question its assumptions. Nominal GDP and venture capital funding are not the only things that matter in an economy.

Europe has no tech industry. It's largely floating on the same economy it had 50 years ago. The situation is beyond dire.

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

bel8 wrote: post #369

This makes me sad since it implies that the best LLM I will ever be allowed to use is GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. Anything smarter than that is deemed too risky. So much wasted potential. And why would I pay Anthropic or OpenAI once consumer hardware gets powerful enough to run an open weight Chinese version of Opus 4.8? Even more so when mobile phones are able to run similar LLMs. Their financial growth looks doomed. It l…

Right, I cancelled my Codex sub yesterday, it ends today. I'm not American and I see the writing on the wall, I'd just as soon improve my tooling to work more effectively with "stupider" open weight models than be dependent on Lutnick and Bessent for "permission" to use the frontier models.

Sad situation is that half the talent that did the primary research and initially created these models and got them out there was educated here or taught here or have citizenship here in Canada. Karpathy, Sutskever, Hinton, there's a huge list. And for other countries, too.

In the short term this play may work for the US administration, in the long run it will only reduce the flow of talent and good will and sharing between G7 nations.

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Post by WarmWash »

wolvoleo wrote: post #419
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #407

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Probably due to the US government doing a constant stream of insane things that hurt Americans and their allies and China not doing that.

Yes this. China's leadership is pretty evil and clearly a danger to the world but not insane.

The US has an open media and the western world internet is a non-stop airing of the US's dirty laundry.

China has only state media and little internet overlap with the west.

From the POV of your typical western internet denizen, The US elected a dictator to burn the country to the ground, while China is building a utopia where the fruits are free for everyone.

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Post by WarmWash »

vachina wrote: post #594
KingMob wrote: post #536

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Uyghurs, Tibet, and Taiwan, for starters. Taiwan in particular could become a conflict if push came to shove. Hard to say. (No nation will go to bat for the Uyghurs or Tibet, though.)

You need to refresh the latest propaganda Codex, those topics are so last decade.

Are the Hong Kong protests recent enough for you? Disappearing college kids from street rallies?

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sschueller wrote: post #448
abroszka33 wrote: post #440

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As a European I still prefer US over China.

But why? There are no Chinese military personnel and bases in Europe. The Chinese have not tried to take European land by force and China is also quite stable. It won't change it's mind every 4 years and negate international treaties that have been signed. I also don't recall China invading another country and/or kidnapping leaders of a foreign state in recent history. China also does not control the global reserve c…

China has a single leader with absolute power.

The irony is that the US is currently getting so much flak because it's leader is trying (and failing, EOs only go so far) to become what Xi Jinpeng is to China.

So if you want to put all your eggs in Xi's basket alone, go ahead. But if he has a stroke tomorrow and thinks China would be best off making pool toys, all your eggs will be smashed in one instant.

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Post by gmueckl »

sajithdilshan wrote: post #634
spwa4 wrote: post #562

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US as a large-scale import nation and so does not need the rest of the world (except perhaps Europe, and only small parts) to keep its markets open to the US. Even in the European case, Europe would lose much more than the US would if they closed their markets. Plus, a lot of Europe is either very close to breaking point and unwilling to change (Italy), or rapidly worsening into a crash, and unwilling to change (…

European economy would implode without trading with US. The biggest economy in Europe, Germany; exports cars, pharmaceuticals and other high end machinery to US and the whole middle class in Germany relies on the jobs from those exports oriented companies

Cars are largely not exported to the US from Germany, but built in US factories. German car companies have factories all over the world.

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Post by 9dev »

dlahoda wrote: post #661
simmerup wrote: post #647

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We're only dependent on American services because we trusted America Trump has ruined that, so now we'll be moving to build our own alternatives

What exactly American services did to you that stopped to trust them?

Nothing. It doesn't matter though. If we can't trust the US administration won't just apply 50% taxes tomorrow because some EU representative said something mean to the president, then we can't rely on goods or services exported by the USA anymore.

It's just chaotic. Chaos isn't good for business. What if Microsoft were instructed, on short notice, to block EU customers from using Entra over a trade dispute? If the identity provider of millions of European customers is suddenly unavailable, work grinds to halt. That's unacceptable.

Now you might say that sounds unrealistic - but would you have expected the American president to threaten an invasion of Danish territory? Or freaking Canada?

And even if the next administration turns out to be more "normal", we won't forget that American voters don't care about anyone but themselves - they wanted this. Twice. There is virtually no guarantee the same thing won't happen again in the future, and we all have seen how quickly fruitful business relations turned to shit over a pathetic narcissistic a-hole at the helm throwing temper tantrums.

Trusting the USA has proven to be a bad strategy, even for its closest allies. That won't change all too soon.

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avaer wrote: post #101

I wonder if the Founding Fathers knew about AI, they would include it in the 2nd? The spirit is to provide effective tools for the people to resist federal military tyranny, and Mythos seems like it would be a good tool to defend against that, for so many reasons.

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