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Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Maybe dang doesn't want it, but his boss definitely wants it. Garry Tan, president & CEO of YC, on Flock support: "You're thinking Chinese surveillance US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims" [1] The tech/VC people want it, because that's where the money will be. [1] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

This is new to me. Very sad.

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Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#92

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Reddit doesn’t even have my email. No way in hell will they get any real identification.

You realize people are uploading their docs to reddit by the millions, right?

What do you mean? You do realize that "those" people have little to nothing to do with proper people, right?

Of course people are deficient by the billions.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#93

- does anyone have actual proof that surveillance does not effectively curb terrorism or something along those lines? - i keep seeing the same arguments everywhere "ThEy WaNt To CoNtRoL Us" etc - how do you propose catching terrorists then?

In front of the loss of Anonimity (the prospected loss of Dignity), "safety" has utterly no importance. You do not trade Dignity for "safety".

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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post #92

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You realize people are uploading their docs to reddit by the millions, right?

What do you mean? You do realize that "those" people have little to nothing to do with proper people, right? Of course people are deficient by the billions.

And that means that largely nobody cares about us with our opinion.

Internet WILL be completely KYCed and very soon. That's kind of inevitable.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#95
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reddit started asking KYC yesterday. You (and me) can bitch all you want, but reddit has well prepared for us whining and being sad will change nothing. Mark my words: KYC will be required on HN in about two years. Not because dang will want it, but because that's the direction the world is going to.

> will be required on HN in about We moved here because it was the best place available: we'd move elsewhere in case this place will not be available.

Nah. HN users just like the rest of the normies will happily oblige and upload their passports.

It's just that a small minority will continue to protect child abuse^W^W^Wresist utopia.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#96

reddit started asking KYC yesterday. You (and me) can bitch all you want, but reddit has well prepared for us whining and being sad will change nothing. Mark my words: KYC will be required on HN in about two years. Not because dang will want it, but because that's the direction the world is going to.

Maybe dang doesn't want it, but his boss definitely wants it. Garry Tan, president & CEO of YC, on Flock support: "You're thinking Chinese surveillance US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims" [1] The tech/VC people want it, because that's where the money will be. [1] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

Right, it's dystopian if they do it, but utopian if we do. If anything I'd trust Chinese surveillance more. It's accountable to the government not the whims of profit motive and private individuals.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#97
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Spoiler alert : Singapore won the race years ago. Cameras everywhere, and mostly : the singaporian civilian population is educated to surveil peers so that they don't commit incivilities. Here is an article about it : https://gcctvms.com/smart-city-surveillance-singapore-camera...

I need a list of countries not to visit. So far I have UK, China, Singapore. But maybe I should accept less rights when traveling.

Why UK?

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Spoiler alert : Singapore won the race years ago. Cameras everywhere, and mostly : the singaporian civilian population is educated to surveil peers so that they don't commit incivilities. Here is an article about it : https://gcctvms.com/smart-city-surveillance-singapore-camera...

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Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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It's not parents demanding 'age verification' laws.

That's not supported by the polling. >From everything you have seen and heard, do you support or oppose the recent rules requiring age verification to access websites that may contain pornographic material?* >80% support https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52693-how-have-britons-rea... >The Essential poll found majority support for a range reforms to improve online safety including: [...] enforcing age verifications fo…

There was no option to select no!

Only which age you wanted the ban to start

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#100
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I don't think asking the average person whether they would consent to constantly have their face scanned to access the Internet would yield the result you believe it would, no matter the excuse. "parents" are not do-I-look-like-I-know-what-a-jay-peg-is boomers you and others who make this claim believe them to be. the people who are having children now grew up with iPhones. to them, the Internet is not that newfangle…

"Won't somebody think of the children" is as old as time and works. That's why it's used so often. If it were ineffective at convincing people to give up their rights, it wouldn't be a thing.

and what I'm saying is that I'm not seeing the data to back up that claim.

California, for example, has all those propositions they vote on, about various things they're allowed to decide. the recent age verification bullshit, however, doesn't seem to have been put up to a vote.

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