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Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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VPNs shift trust from your ISP to the VPN provider. I trust Mullvad 100x more than my ISP, so it's a good decision to use Mullvad and it benefits my privacy. It's not like your ISP or Mullvad can see content of sites, either they can just see the DNS requests. What ISP sees without a VPN: news.YCombinator.com, apple.com, Wikipedia.com What ISP sees with a VPN: Mullvad server What VPN sees when you use it: news.YCombi…

You also need to trust the root certificates that they don't give key access to the VPN or ISP

https://certificate.transparency.dev/

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Case in point - in the UK you can currently be put into prison for a long stretch under terrorism charges for holding up a sign with just 4 words.

The four words you're referring to are "I support Palestine Action", and there's nobody in prison "for a long stretch" just for saying that. There have been over 3000 people arrested for showing support for this proscribed organisation, and over 700 charged, but none actually prosecuted yet. It was only just decided two weeks ago that the government's act of proscribing Palestine Action was lawful. https://www.thegua…

You shouldn't be judged based on your speech, only your actions. That's the problem with the Terrorism Act.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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You can become a customer on reddit by purchasing subscription. I did. I like reddit. Doesn't matter. They want your passport.

Reddit doesn’t even have my email. No way in hell will they get any real identification.

You realize people are uploading their docs to reddit by the millions, right?

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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It's not parents demanding 'age verification' laws.

That's not supported by the polling. >From everything you have seen and heard, do you support or oppose the recent rules requiring age verification to access websites that may contain pornographic material?* >80% support https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52693-how-have-britons-rea... >The Essential poll found majority support for a range reforms to improve online safety including: [...] enforcing age verifications fo…

Are you quoting the same polls that simply didn't offer respondents any way to say "I'm against all of it"?

Dishonest polls do not demonstrate popular support.

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/User:Louis/Manufacturing_suppo...

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#75
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Spoiler alert : Singapore won the race years ago. Cameras everywhere, and mostly : the singaporian civilian population is educated to surveil peers so that they don't commit incivilities. Here is an article about it : https://gcctvms.com/smart-city-surveillance-singapore-camera...

I need a list of countries not to visit.

So far I have UK, China, Singapore.

But maybe I should accept less rights when traveling.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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- does anyone have actual proof that surveillance does not effectively curb terrorism or something along those lines? - i keep seeing the same arguments everywhere "ThEy WaNt To CoNtRoL Us" etc - how do you propose catching terrorists then?

Of course it curbs terrorism. But it's not worth it. Think of everything that improved when the Taliban came into power. Crime went down. Public services improved. It wasn't worth it.

The cure you propose is worse than the disease. I don't want you to prevent me from stubbing my toe by cutting my foot off. You're just going to have to find another way and do the best you can under those constraints.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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It's not shown on the internet. Age verification laws essentially broadcast it.

I think the basket_horse comment is referring to the US government.

The previous comment only says pedophiles so I don't think I'm wrong in assuming they're just talking about pedophiles online.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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It is from a VPN Company, so YMMV. But I do agree there is surveillance happening, but the amount of data is way too much to fully examine. Makes one wonder if this is one of the reasons the US Gov. (and others) are so into AI.

You don’t need to wonder, it’s a fact that the interest and investment in AI is primarily driven by the ability to mass surveillance and other mass XYZ.

In Canada, they straight up tell you that the AI will be used to profile you, from every transaction you do all the way to analyzing your sentiment

> AI could analyze public sentiment on social media and other platforms to gauge public opinion.

https://www.canada.ca/en/government/system/digital-governmen...

Brace yourself!

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#79

- does anyone have actual proof that surveillance does not effectively curb terrorism or something along those lines? - i keep seeing the same arguments everywhere "ThEy WaNt To CoNtRoL Us" etc - how do you propose catching terrorists then?

Says a coward posting anonymously online.

you are gonna start attacking a person for asking a reasonable question? i have been very active on HN for a long time now

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

#80

- does anyone have actual proof that surveillance does not effectively curb terrorism or something along those lines? - i keep seeing the same arguments everywhere "ThEy WaNt To CoNtRoL Us" etc - how do you propose catching terrorists then?

> how do you propose catching terrorists then how did police ever do anything over the past hundreds of years?

the terrorists are using signal messenger, in game chat messages and all sorts of sophisticated tooling, they are literally getting trained by it. how do you propose beating someone tech savy without using tech?
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