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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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GrapheneOS would be so much more interesting if there was an official supported way for rooting it. That's the only reason I haven't switched to it on my several devices (all rooted)

They value privacy and security. Allowing userspace apps to completely circumvent Android's permission system massively weakens both.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Not only obtaining but if you ever need warranty you're done. Just last week I went to a Samsung center and had my fold 6 fixed in 30 minutes, and these centers are everywhere around the world. Same thing with Apple, yet a 4.5 trillion dollar company can't ship and maintain a phone globally. It's so unserious.

As the old joke goes: Microsoft is a software company, Apple is a hardware company, Google is an ads company.

Isn't that just the truth based on revenue streams?

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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GOS won't install? It's blocked somehow? Or it's not officially supported?

It is only developed for Pixel phones

It isn't only developed for Pixels. Pixels are currently the only devices permitting an alternate OS with the required updates and security features. GrapheneOS has a partnership with Motorola Mobility and there will be official GrapheneOS support for a subset of next generation Motorola devices.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.

I'm in Europe, but I had accepted that I had to do without. I hadn't heard of curve, going to check that out.

the Play store reviews for Curve are attrocious, especially the most recent ones. Looks like Curve is absolutely unusable, for many reasons

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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> by revoking network you don't lose privacy Be careful, apps can still communicate with other apps, e.g. revoking the network permission doesn't stop apps from fetching and displaying ads over the network. I don't know enough about Android internals to understand the mechanisms behind it, but clearly there are ways for apps to exfiltrate data. > Trying to use Network as a complete data exfiltration toggle isn't the…

Eye opener. Thanks for the warning! GrapheneOS sandboxes all apps including GSF as far as I understand. It would be nice if full capabilities could be exposed or at least shown in the app settings. There is the "All permissions" view which has a "have full network access" item with the following details: `Allows the app to create network sockets and use custom network protocols. The browser and other applications pro…

To my knowledge, any app can just instruct the installed browser (Google Chrome, Vanadium, Firefox...) to open http[s]://tracker.evil-ad-network.example/?installedId=012345.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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> I'm not looking to fully de-Google but I want Google as apps and not my OS. This is entirely possible as other posters have explained. But I think it kind of defeats the point of Graphene, at least somewhat. Google is already profiling every aspect of your life by reading your emails, files, calendar, location, etc? In that case, OS access becomes moot. I think that GrapheneOS makes most sense as part of a broader…

I agree and have moved mostly away from everything Google. But it's hard to replace maps. I know open street maps exists but it's hard to beat Google's data gathering.

I recommend Magic Earth. Free with traffic and navigation, and strong privacy promises (unlike Here Maps).

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.

I don't. GrapheneOS is worth the effort of pulling a card out of my wallet.

In general I'd agree.

Curve demand a "video selfie" and I've never been comfortable with sending companies such biometric data.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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post #62

What does it mean for an OS to be ported to another OS? Do they mean "ported to devices that support Android"?

It's a fork of the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) with major privacy/security improvements and alternatives to Google apps/services. The massive set of changes needs to be ported to new major versions of AOSP.

The apps also need to be updated to the Android 17 target API level but that can happen over several months following the OS itself being ported to it. The app aspect is something all Android developers need to deal with due to new target API levels bringing backwards incompatible improvements.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Graphene is NOT a jailbroken/rooted OS, its a real secure unrooted, bootloader locked OS, and MS Authenticotor works just fine. If anything does not work its related to dependency of the App maker on a certain attestation google play services grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide

Root =/= insecure. You probably have administrator access on your home computer operating system, and can very likely do online banking via the web browser with no issues. A secure API is possible regardless of the host metal, operating system, or user permissions.

Root on computers is insecure. Malware can steal secrets from other applications. We're just used to it, but the Android security model is much better.
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