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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by Cub3 »

sivers wrote: post #20
jordand wrote: post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

Ha! Me too! Exact same. Bought a Pixel 10. Intended to do the default Android for a while. But it was filled with ads for “Wicked” which had me looking at my phone with a sneer on my face I couldn't erase - as if someone had smeared feces all over it and threw it on my bed. So I jumped straight to GrapheneOS, which was way easier and less extreme than I had been warned. So beautifully minimal, with no crap. Now my ph…

> it was filled with ads

You bought a phone from an advertising company?

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by cybertim »

RachelF wrote: post #57
jordand wrote: post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

I too, liked it. However, some apps that I need for work, like Microsoft Authenticator, no longer work under GrapheneOS. https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/03/10/microsoft-tig...

Graphene is NOT a jailbroken/rooted OS, its a real secure unrooted, bootloader locked OS, and MS Authenticotor works just fine. If anything does not work its related to dependency of the App maker on a certain attestation google play services grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by oynqr »

cwillu wrote: post #219
theodric wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Install a 3rd party GCam and then the answer is no https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

That sounds like the answer is actually yes: we're not talking about the lack of a camera app, but the lack of a camera app that knows the details of the usually-proprietary camera firmware

You can install both the regular GCam as well as third party mods. Actual GCam feels worse to me.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by Markoff »

hiitsmyaccount wrote: post #65
tasty_freeze wrote: post #2

I've been using Graphene on my Pixel 7a for about a year and I'm happy I made the switch. For sure it is a bit rougher than using Google's OS, but not enough to make me regret it. The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, and (2) the texting app doesn't just attach reaction emojis to a message -- it quotes the whole message…

I use GBoard on GrapheneOS. I just deny it network permission so it can't phone home.

I do usually this, but recently on older phone (using it temporarily while I buy new) I had to reinstall it and found out, it didn't provide any word suggestions for ant language other than English and even gesture input for other languages didn't work, so at least during initial setup it must have (now?) internet connection most likely to download dictionaries (I thought they used to be included in past, never noticed this before), after allowing the connection, setting up and then disabling the connection, it works fine

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by microtonal »

handedness wrote: post #136
hiitsmyaccount wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you install the Google Play store via the GrapheneOS App Store. The OS comes with like 5 apps out of the box. The rest is up to you. Biggest caveats that I've encountered: tap to pay via Google Wallet is a no go, Android Auto can be flaky, MDM managed work profiles don't work at the moment, and some apps that use the Google Play integrity API fail to validate and refuse to work (I've only encountered one app tha…

My end-run around Google's absurd unwillingness to certify GOS for Google Pay has been Garmin Pay, which has worked virtually everywhere I've ever tried it. I'm hopeful that an OEM Motorola device will get certified for Google Pay.

Depends as bit on the country and bank. I also use Garmin Pay, but my bank only supports adding their credit card (not debit card) and a substantial portion of shops here only supports contactless payment through debit cards (credit cards have historically not been popular here).

So I get to use contactless payment at maybe 50% of the stores, which is annoying, because it's sometimes hard tot tell ahead of time.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by wraptile »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #106
phreack wrote: post #84

That Motorola phone that lets you install Graphene can not come soon enough. Pixel phones are not sold worldwide so it feels like they're gatekeeping security. I know that's not the case really, but there's very few ways to successfully degoogle otherwise.

> Pixel phones are not sold worldwide Still boggles my mind the fact Google doesn't sell their phones worldwide. Obtaining a Pixel has proven to be quite difficult for me.

Not only obtaining but if you ever need warranty you're done. Just last week I went to a Samsung center and had my fold 6 fixed in 30 minutes, and these centers are everywhere around the world. Same thing with Apple, yet a 4.5 trillion dollar company can't ship and maintain a phone globally. It's so unserious.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by sieabahlpark »

RachelF wrote: post #57
jordand wrote: post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

I too, liked it. However, some apps that I need for work, like Microsoft Authenticator, no longer work under GrapheneOS. https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/03/10/microsoft-tig...

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

digitalPhonix wrote: post #169
mvdtnz wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ridiculous is what it is. It makes me deeply distrustful of the organisation behind Graphene that they would make such a crazy choice.

The intersection of phones that have unlockable bootloaders, public-ish driver blobs and decent hardware is tiny. What other phone would you pick?

Everything Lineage supports.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by teekert »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #2

I've been using Graphene on my Pixel 7a for about a year and I'm happy I made the switch. For sure it is a bit rougher than using Google's OS, but not enough to make me regret it. The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, and (2) the texting app doesn't just attach reaction emojis to a message -- it quotes the whole message…

You shall engage more with your apps, user!
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